what is the difference between USADA and VADA?

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  • mathed
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    #21
    All I know is that USADA has let dirty fighters fight when VADA caught them. USADA concealed info regarding failed tests.....I haven't heard that about VADA though.

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    • radioraheem
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Future
      How long did lance get away with it with usada?
      They do not do CIR testing as frequent as VADA. Vada would have busted him long ago........




      Conte says USADA itself does not employ enough of the more sophisticated and expensive Carbon Isotope Ratio test for testosterone. The CIR test detects any presence of synthetic testosterone; the cheaper test requires highly elevated testosterone levels to declare a positive."It's the biggest loophole in all of drug testing, because when you ask what the most anabolic drug is for power and speed, it's testosterone," Conte said. "The CIR test can detect use for up to two weeks. There wouldn't have been seven Tour de France titles by Lance Armstrong if they had done this."
      USADA does CIR testing.

      You have to proceed with caution when listening to things from Victor Conte. Conte is very biased towards USADA because USADA is the same organization that went after him when he was running his drug cheat enterprise. USADA brought him down to his knees and is responsible for him, along with others, ending up in JAIL. USADA also wants nothing to do with Conte, they don't want to be associated with him in any way, shape, or form. VADA embraces him though. But yeah, Conte hates USADA with a passion and it's for a great reason.

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      • The Future
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        #23
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        USADA does CIR testing.

        You have to proceed with caution when listening to things from Victor Conte. Conte is very biased towards USADA because USADA is the same organization that went after him when he was running his drug cheat enterprise. USADA brought him down to his knees and is responsible for him, along with others, ending up in JAIL. USADA also wants nothing to do with Conte, they don't want to be associated with him in any way, shape, or form. VADA embraces him though. But yeah, Conte hates USADA with a passion and it's for a great reason.

        VADA is the far better testing agency.
        Just look at the Golden boy drama, they changed from VADA to the usada because VADA was catching their boxers and reporting it properly which caused cancelled shows.......now they use USADA and the Morales crap happens.

        Vada and Conte are calling agency's and promoters out for improper testing and I think they have proven what they are saying is the truth.....regardless of the previous history of Conte I have not heard anything wrong. All he is saying is more testing in sports........

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        • SoulByThePound
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Future
          VADA is the far better testing agency.
          Just look at the Golden boy drama, they changed from VADA to the usada because VADA was catching their boxers and reporting it properly which caused cancelled shows.......now they use USADA and the Morales crap happens.

          Vada and Conte are calling agency's and promoters out for improper testing and I think they have proven what they are saying is the truth.....regardless of the previous history of Conte I have not heard anything wrong. All he is saying is more testing in sports........
          Just shut up......Conte got berto caught

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          • puga
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            #25
            HUge diffrence is that one is "effective and the other is corrupt as f0ck .....

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            • thuggery
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Future
              VADA is the far better testing agency.
              Just look at the Golden boy drama, they changed from VADA to the usada because VADA was catching their boxers and reporting it properly which caused cancelled shows.......now they use USADA and the Morales crap happens.

              Vada and Conte are calling agency's and promoters out for improper testing and I think they have proven what they are saying is the truth.....regardless of the previous history of Conte I have not heard anything wrong. All he is saying is more testing in sports........
              This is true..

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              • radioraheem
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                #27
                Originally posted by The Future
                VADA is the far better testing agency.
                Just look at the Golden boy drama, they changed from VADA to the usada because VADA was catching their boxers and reporting it properly which caused cancelled shows.......now they use USADA and the Morales crap happens.

                Vada and Conte are calling agency's and promoters out for improper testing and I think they have proven what they are saying is the truth.....regardless of the previous history of Conte I have not heard anything wrong. All he is saying is more testing in sports........

                You are brainwashed by Conte. There is a huge conflict of interest when a convicted drug pusher is actively involved in a known corrupt sport (boxing) by helping boxers for money, and is involved with an important drug testing agency all at the same time.

                VADA never called out USADA. Only Conte. Margaret Goodman is not reckless and doesn't have an agenda like Conte. .

                VADA has had 2 positive results (Berto and Peterson). USADA has had one (Morales). Keep in mind, Peterson wasn't even a Golden Boy fighter at the time. Berto also wasn't a Golden Boy fighter when he tested positive.

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                • al-Xander
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                  #28
                  One is catching cheaters and the other one is useless. GBP prefers the useless one.

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