Hardest punching heavyweights of all times?

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  • beez721
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    #41
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Vintage Vitali punches harder than vintage Wlad. You look at the beatings Vitali has dished out over the years, and look at those Wlad has. Also, he has a higher KO%, though against substantially lower level opposition. Similar opponents talk in Vitali's favour as well. He also has more one punch KOs.

    Of course I haven't fought either of them fortunately, but from the looks of it 2002-2004 Vitali hits harder than Wlad IMO.

    Thought about Morrison, dont think Tua deserved a mention, but I know a lot of people rate that left hook of his.
    I think vit is physically stronger than wlad but wlad seems to have more one shot power imo. chris byrd and phil jackson both said wlad hit much harder

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #42
      Its George Foreman

      End thread....

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        #43
        I have said it before and I repeat it: the prime Foreman is the hardest puncher I've ever seen (my signature)

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          #44
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Why not put Adonis Stevenson on the list? he is a pretty hard hitter and about the same size as Rocky was.
          Well gee, why not put Chris Byrd on there since he's a "modern" genetic superman who's "evolved" into a different species than those Jurassic **********s like Foreman :rolleyes9:

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            #45
            Foreman.

            It would suck a LOT to be trapped in a ring with young Foreman.

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              #46
              Originally posted by poet682006
              KO% is an EXTREMELY misleading stat though. It's not just the guys who get put out for a ten count that figure into it, it's ALL stoppages. That means guys who get stopped on cuts, guys who's corner throws in the towel, guys the refs decide have shipped too many punches, guys who quit on their stools, guys who bust their ankles and can't continue, ect ect ect. All those things factor into the KO%.

              Poet
              Agreed.

              Regardless, based on this fact alone he deserves at least a mention. I don't think we could dismiss him on the list. Even Shannon Briggs said he hit as hard as Lennox Lewis. A little strange since LL dropped him like three times and stopped him in 5 or something but still.

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                #47
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Agreed.

                Regardless, based on this fact alone he deserves at least a mention. I don't think we could dismiss him on the list. Even Shannon Briggs said he hit as hard as Lennox Lewis. A little strange since LL dropped him like three times and stopped him in 5 or something but still.
                Briggs says a lot of ****** things. Methinks Lennox hit him hard enough to cause brain damage.

                Regardless, if you watch Vitali's fights you can see he gets his stoppages via an accumulation of punches rather than out and out power. He has very good power, but not great power. He isn't someone who's going to get an opponent out of there with one punch like, say, prime Foreman or even Wlad.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  Briggs says a lot of ****** things. Methinks Lennox hit him hard enough to cause brain damage.

                  Regardless, if you watch Vitali's fights you can see he gets his stoppages via an accumulation of punches rather than out and out power. He has very good power, but not great power. He isn't someone who's going to get an opponent out of there with one punch like, say, prime Foreman or even Wlad.

                  Poet
                  Probably, but Vitali hospitalized him for weeks. I think there's no doubt that Vitali has great power, but i'm not saying he's a great one punch KO artist. And even though weight is not the sole issue here, because Vitali has knocked out his fair share of small guys, he's also put a beating on guys weighing 240+, who are obviously better equipped absorbing that kind of punishment than say guys weighing 220.

                  With regards to the one punch KO, Wlad do not KO his opponents as a puncher normally would do. He's breaking them down and finishing them off, whereas someone like Foreman for example or Tyson or Shavers would hit them once or twice and then it would be over with. But there can be no doubt he hits very very hard.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by pigsfly
                    and yes i do feel that joe louis is a harder puncher then lennox lewis.

                    it's a the technique, it's the speed, & it's the way joe louis would explode with his shots. the only thing that you're looking at is weight.........
                    How am I only looking at weight when 3 out of 5/6 guys on the list weighs 225 or below? It just so happens that Wlad/Lennox/Vitali are much bigger, in great shape but also had devastating power.

                    With regards to Louis, he might have been a bigger puncher relative to his era. But if they fought in the same era and fighting the same people, Lennox hits substantially harder.

                    Originally posted by Simurgh
                    I think that Wlad should be in top 3 and vitali shouldn't be on the list.
                    Wlad IMO hits harder than both Lennox or Vitali.

                    Foreman is my favorite for number one.
                    Wlad doesn't hit harder than Lennox. At least he hasn't proven it in his fights. If you look at mutual opponents, Lennox also takes the lead quite easily.

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                      #50
                      I've always thought Wladimir hit harder than Vitali and they're both top 5 anyway

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