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Lucas Matthysse, can he become an ATG?
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View PostU don't need a crystal ball to tell u the obvious.
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Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostLike I said, the fighters he needs to beat are in and around his weight class. Sergio is still on top at 38 so there's plenty of time (7 years+, 3 fights a year). It only takes longer for other fighters because they duck and take soft fights. Golovkin will do this ish back to back with HBO support. If you should want to believe otherwise that's on you.
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Are Machines allowed to be inducted into the HOF?
I think if he can beat most of the following fighters, then he has a shot at the HOF:
GB Fighters:
-Garcia
-Guerrero
-Khan
-Ortiz
-Berto
-Brook
-Broner
-Brook
-Alexnader
-Maidana
I think he can beat all of the above fighters.
TR (unlikely to actually fight):
-Bradley
-JMM
-Pacquiao
-Rios
-Alvarado
I think if he had a signature win over JMM/Pacquaio, that would go a long way. I would give him a shot at beating bradley/rios/alvarado, but a small shot at beating the legends.
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maybe HOF. there's just not a lot of time for all-time great status and i think 147 is probably his limit. when he beats garcia, if he moves up to 147 and cleans that division out and dominates for a few years...sure he could be a HOF'er.
for me personally, there's only a few all-time greats that are currently active. mayweather, pacquiao, marquez, hopkins, jones jr, and w. klitschko. matthysse just isn't on the level of those guys in terms of skill or resume. he has some serious work to do for me to be able to consider him ATG. he would need to clean out 147 and 154, but i think he's too small for 54.
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BRAWLERS, almost always get exposed by BOXERS. And if he wins against Garcia (which i doubt) He's gonna have to face the best BOXER on the planet, who will be bigger, faster, stronger, and have more skill. He wont get away with those wide hooks he throws. Its hard enough for boxers to hit floyd with straight shots let alone his wide punches. A good boxer will beat a good brawler.
His only hope to win a fight is to get lucky with a big punch. when he cant land a good punch what does he have to rely on? So he CAN be an atg but its highly unlikely because brawlers fade with age. Plus we dont know if he can even take a punch. Let him and keith thurman fight so he can test the ww waters, then we will see what he's about.
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