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  • #61
    Originally posted by StarScr33m View Post
    I'm surprised no one said NO BECAUSE:

    A monster would have at least knocked out Guerrero, Cotto, Ortiz (legitimately) and others. Getting a random knock out on Canelo after not being able to knock out those other guys won't make you a monster but lucky instead in my opinion. To be a monster you need to do what you do regularly not a one time thing.
    I think the true definition of a beast is how unstoppable they are, how versatile they can be, and how they can not be beaten and can beat you in a multitudes of ways.

    Guerrero never been knocked out, Ortiz always quit but never been knocked out, Cotto never been out cold... But someone like Pacquiao was considered a beast but he got put to sleep by Marquez yet not one of you consider him a beast? Why is that? Bias Hatred?

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    • #62
      Floyd the Catchweight Monster!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Downy_tax View Post
        I think the true definition of a beast is how unstoppable they are, how versatile they can be, and how they can not be beaten and can beat you in a multitudes of ways.

        Guerrero never been knocked out, Ortiz always quit but never been knocked out, Cotto never been out cold... But someone like Pacquiao was considered a beast but he got put to sleep by Marquez yet not one of you consider him a beast? Why is that? Bias Hatred?
        First of all do not class me in to any group with others, I have my own opinions and I'm not biased or favour a specific boxer over another like a fan boy.

        Secondly your definition of a beast is most likely different to what the vast majority of people would think of as a beast which is more likely to be someone like Tyson, GGG, Foreman, people with immense power, might and determination and killer instinct.

        Thirdly I would say Marquez does look like he has the taste of blood in some of his fights where he looks like a straight killer but that just isn't him deep down thus in my opinion not making him a beast but someone who has some of the finest combinations I've ever seen, ring IQ and he isn't afraid to turn up the heat, trade and go for the kill which the latter is what Mayweather lacks in my opinion.

        Mayweather to me is a ring general, a boxing wizard, the definition of hitting without getting hit.

        Manny to me is a straight killer, a beast who yes happened to get knocked out.

        I hope I have clarified my point of view for you kind sir.

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        • #64
          if canelo doesn't look like a dead man walking, i'd give floyd props

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          • #65
            Originally posted by StarScr33m View Post
            First of all do not class me in to any group with others, I have my own opinions and I'm not biased or favour a specific boxer over another like a fan boy.

            Secondly your definition of a beast is most likely different to what the vast majority of people would think of as a beast which is more likely to be someone like Tyson, GGG, Foreman, people with immense power, might and determination and killer instinct.

            Thirdly I would say Marquez does look like he has the taste of blood in some of his fights where he looks like a straight killer but that just isn't him deep down thus in my opinion not making him a beast but someone who has some of the finest combinations I've ever seen, ring IQ and he isn't afraid to turn up the heat, trade and go for the kill which the latter is what Mayweather lacks in my opinion.

            Mayweather to me is a ring general, a boxing wizard, the definition of hitting without getting hit.

            Manny to me is a straight killer, a beast who yes happened to get knocked out.

            I hope I have clarified my point of view for you kind sir.
            I have to agree with you.. Marquez does have that killer instinct that he just combines with intellect, it's just amazing. Yes, Floyd does seem to lack that which make Marquez boxing so beautiful.

            I think Marquez should be considered a beast because of how overlooked he always been and people always picking Pacquiao against him. Also all the robberies he had to deal with, Barrera, Morales ducking him and how he destroyed Casamayor who underestimated him.

            He beats Bradley because he fights off aggression and will power but yet his counter ability while mixing it is second to none.

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