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  • Professor Skittlez Boxing 101: Breaking down the different styles.

    I often read phrases like 'boxer puncher' and 'pressure fighter'. But what is a great pressure fighter? What elements does he need to master? What is a great boxer puncher? What elements is needed to be an elite at that style? I want to go more in depth and show what it's like at the pinnacle of certain styles.




    Pressure Fighter:

    The Ultimate Pressure Fighter
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.

    Guard
    Chavez' guard is crucial to his game. Obviously, we know he was excellent at slipping and picking off punches, but those are really skills more than technical observations. From a technical perspective (which is what this thread is all about) there are certain things about his defence that are particularly noteworthy. If you watch Hopkins' KO of Trinidad closely, you'll see something interesting. The finishing sequence actually occurs when Hopkins misses wildly with a left uppercut from the outside (almost unheard of for him) and Trinidad tries to counter with (you guessed it) the left hook. The left hok is actually quite nicely placed, and does land on Hopkins. However, because Hopkins has his hands close to his head and his chin tucked in, it just bounces painlessly off his forehead and takes no effect (to the uneducated observer, as if the punch hadn't landed at all). This allows Hopkins to counter with a right hook ("full mustard"), and his less prepared opponent doesn't have his hands up and doesn't have his chin tucked in, leaving him open for the money shot. The difference in the way the two men defended themselves habitually was the difference between a punch glancing harmlessly off and a punch causing a KO.

    Now, this is a good analogy for what Chavez accomplishes with his guard. In many of his fights against less distinguished opponents, he actually gets in exchanges where he's taking shots himself, but they have no effect at all. His guard is always kept close to his chin, leaving little or no room for the shots to do damage, and his chin is for the most part down. This means his opponents end up wearing themselves out on his guard, or end up with their shots bouncing off all over the place and leaving them wide open for counters. You could hit Chavez in the temple as much as you want; he allows you to and it doesn't hurt. But when he hits you back, your chin is exposed and he's going to be doing the damage, even if his connect rate isn't the same.

    Right Hand
    Basically, Chavez had a wicked right hand. Partially, he used it so much just because it was a really great punch - so great that he could easily out-time bigger and longer opponents' jabs with a lead right hand from the outside. The technical advantage with the blow is that a right hand involves turning your whole body forward with it and following through, meaning your momentum naturally carries you forward as you let it go. For Chavez, this was a natural mechanism for him to get inside seamlessly after throwing a shot. He doesn't have to crudely step in or try to bull his way inside with head movement; he just throws the right hand and his body naturally slides up close where he is at home. This isn't achieved by a jab, which if anything leaves you even more emphatically on the outside than you were before, especially if you "step in" with the lead foot while throwing it, preventing your body squaring up for you to come in. Plus, the right is a stronger, more damaging blow in the exchange.

    Balance
    There's a strong divide in pressure fighters, the way I see it. Obviously, all pressure fighters are trying to pressure. But there are different styles at work. There are Frazier types, who are constantly marching forward. They literally never stop unless you beat the brakes off them. They don't wait to get off, but just keep charging in until they get to the right distance to let go. Then there are Chavez/Holyfield types, who are looking to pressure you, but aren't always moving forward. They often wait just outside of range, waiting for an opportunity to counter their way in, or lead with something that will allow them to follow up by going inside. Now, adopting the style of the second category carries the advantage of being able to constantly maintain balance, something which Chavez was pretty good at. He wasn't anywhere near Napoles or anything, but he was always in position to throw the right hand or the left hook to the body, and always had his feet well planted so he could afford to take a shot without getting thrown around all over the place. If you're exchanging with someone regularly, as pressure fighters must, having the ability to attack or defend at all times is essential, especially for in-fighters, and that's what the above achieves.

    Punching Style
    This sort of straddles the divide between a skill and a technical factor, but I think is still worth mentioning. Chavez was arguably the most accurate puncher of all time, especially in combination, similar to other offensive greats like Robinson and Louis. This obviously makes it easier to score points and do damage, but also has the advantage in terms of pressure of not giving your opponent opportunities to counter. More interesting, though, is the way Chavez throws his punches. For instance, he could throw perhaps the shortest left hook I've seen any fighter throw. It's a sneaky punch that he doesn't need any leverage to get off, and because it's so short, he doesn't have to step back to get room to punch. Consequently, his opponent doesn't realise it's coming, and hasn't got the space to get Chavez back anyway, as Chavez can throw it and quickly get back on his opponent's chest. (Foreman mastered this sneaky hook technique later in his career - see the Cooney KO.) All of Chavez punches, not just the hook, were thrown in a super-efficient, compact, tight way, so he never left himself open unnecessarily for counters and could keep the pressure up without fear of retaliation. Further, he could rattle off attacks to the head and body with tihs crisp, accurate punching style, giving you no respite until you caved in.









    The 'Ideal Boxer-puncher'

    Alexis Arguello "El Flaco Explosivo"-

    Arguello is one of those guys, along with Louis who immediately spring to mind when you hear the term "Boxer-Puncher". From a body perspective, Arguello was tall and lanky for the weights he fought in, and that translated very well into his style.

    Style
    Arguello was a well rounded boxing strategist. Took a stance similar to Louis, hands held high and chin down. He would stalk his opponents with a subtle pressure similar to Louis, stalking his opponent until they opened up or made a mistake, and then he would light them up from the middle range or outside with picture-perfect combinations.

    Offensive Weapons
    His left jab and powerful right cross formed the basis for a great deal of his offense, as well as a lethal left hook. Arguello would throw them as single shots and even more effectively as combinations, which he would flow into after finding weaknesses in his opponent's boxing. Those combinations were typically the catalyst for many of his KOs, but along with combination punching Arguello could counter and had excellent body work.

    Ring Behavior and Rhythm
    As mentioned before Arguello typically stalked his opponents around the ring with a subtle pressure driven by his jabs. At lower weights his power was very real and even his single shot straight punches dissuaded a great deal of fighters from bringing the fight to him in sufficient fashion. Arguello began a fight slower, countering and shoulder blocking and jabbing and would gradually open up into a flurry of combinations, eventually devastating his opponents.

    Defensive Weapons
    Countering, shoulder blocking, jabbing, and crisp, clean fundamentals drove Alexis' defense. His footwork was good enough to get him where he needed to be, and undoubtedly aided in the delivery of a great deal of his knockouts via proper footing. He also possessed a pretty good chin. It took someone like Pryor with a lot of volume and power to take him out.

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    Catch and Counter:

    Juan Manuel Marquez might not have been the best at this style, but he is the textbook example of this unique art of 'catch and counter'.


    Juan Manuel Marquez

    Marquez is a textbook technician from the Beristain school of catch and counter: Soak up a pressure fighter then ring him out, or figure out a slickster and solve him. He's a versatile boxer-puncher with a well-rounded skillset, but is most comfortable catching and countering, using parries and pulls to avoid damage while drawing an opponent from their center, and then blasting them with hard, hurtful counters, and does in combination. He mixes his shots up beautifully, from uppercuts to hooks to straights and back, and rarely hits his foes with one or two, but often four or five.

    Stance

    Marquez is heavy on his feet, sacrificing mobility and stylized footwork for an effective base for power punching and good balance for countering. He keeps his torso relatively square for as good an operator as he is, but does so to have a faster, smoother liner for his uppercuts. He keeps his right hand glued to his cheek, and holds his left hand high and extended, glove parallel, to catch and parry. His fencer's left hand is the most easily noticeable thing about his stance, and he keeps it this way to manipulate, catch, and parry shots in order to lead foes into big right hands.

    Jab

    JMM doesn't really utilize one. He has a fairly good one, in that its textbook: Its thrown with the proper mechanics, and he steps into it very well. He uses the punch very sporadically though, and rarely if ever without a follow up combination. He's just not a jabber.

    The power shots

    Marquez has a wonderful and versatile right hand. Beristain once said that in his early education, he and Juan took months to just work on his right hand, to make sure it always returned to position, and to enable JMM to fire any punch with it he may need. This special, intense attention has developed Marquez's right into a terrific weapon for any situation.

    There is no right handed punch JMM can't throw. His straight right is perfectly linear and sharp, his sweeping right hand see's him load onto his back foot and swivel his hips perfectly into it, his overhand right is short and compact, and his right uppercut is simply poetry. He is also so coordinated and confident with this hand he can throw three or four right hands in a row with no left hands in between. Several times against Pacquiao, he'd parry a right with his guarding left glove, fire a sharp right to get Pacquaio to duck or lean, pop his head up with a right uppercut and punish him with another type of right hand, all in sequence.

    His hook's and uppercuts are beautiful. Perfect punch mechanics, and his combinations flow beautifully, one punch to another. Very rarely to you see a technician utilize double and triple uppercuts like Marquez, particularly in the Diaz fight; Some of the combo's he landed on the other Juan were jaw dropping. Fighting Marquez when his offense is dialed in is like fighting a buzzsaw; His power shot arsenal is what makes his special, and if he dials into your rhythm and starts successfully countering your offensive forays with combinations, he's going to begin to punish you in rapid order.

    His power is actually fairly pedestrian, but he often scores knockouts, particularly because he can either gain accumulative damage so quickly its like an avalanche, like the Katsidis fight, where he would hit Michael with several eight or nine punch combo's a round, or because he can score such combinations. Four or five straight power shots on the chin are very, very difficult to weather when they occur in the span of three or four seconds, and this is how Marquez scores most of his stoppages.

    Defense

    JMM actually ignores this aspect in large degree because he wants you to punch. His chin is quite good and his recovery is better, and he believes in it. Its his best defense, and he is okay relying on it because an opponent throwing is an opponent he can counter and nail. His most prominent defensive features are his adept use of parries and his gloves held in proper position. You rarely if ever catch Marquez with his hands out of position, and he is very good at picking off single shots with his left and responding immediately with shots of his own. He use his feet and his left hand to parry Pacquaio's bumrushes, and when Manny was out of position as he often gets at the very end of his strings of shots, fire back with hurtful hooks and right hands. His offense is his best defense, followed by his parrying, followed by his toughness.

    Mechanics

    Marquez does nothing wrong from an offensive stand point besides ignoring the jab. His punches are perfect in terms of form, footwork, and context. He's heavy on his feet, but this is a very conscious aspect of his style, as without a base with which to give his counter's authority his effectiveness against the elite would evaporate. His defense is risk vs. reward- He stands too squarely and keeps his head fairly stationary, but is okay to take a couple if he can hit you with a big counter combination. This is often his biggest undoing in the fights he's lost-If he got hit less, he'd could have probably won every fight he's been in bar Mayweather.

    Overall, JMM is a sublime offensive fighter who trades defensive flaws to maximize his opportunities to do damage. As his reflexes slow he has become increasingly easy to hit, but he almost always fires back and has a big heart and plenty of grit. He is the perfect example of a Beristain technician: A counter puncher with terrific form who always responds to fire with more fire. A combination puncher with few peers.

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    • #3
      In those 2 posts.. I have already threw out more boxing knowledge than NSB collected during the last 2 years.

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      • #4
        Fuarkin biuriful man!

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          • #6
            What category do you feel Randolph Turpin fell into? Serious question.

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