this is a boxing forum, but ignorance regarding margarito's hand wraps is infuriating

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  • edgarg
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    #41
    Originally posted by EzzardCharles
    for those who have never seen the 'the wrap' that was allegedly tampered.... it's gauze, and it looks like gauze... it's not a 'brick' like ****m richardson described.....

    it had 'residue' of a 'plaster-like' substance.... that could have come off anything.... now, that was enough to validate the claim.... but truth is it wasn't a substantial amount.... an officer @ the nevada state athletic commission said the amount found on the gauze was comparable to a 'pinch of salt'....

    and also bare in mind it was only found in one hand-wrap....

    cotto lost against margarito.... because margarito was better, stronger, bigger....

    now stfu.
    At last a man with sense and decency. As well the documents said that there were traces (meaning minute amounts) of 2 of the ingredients of Plaster-of-Paris. The report further said that these components were extremely common and could be found in most kitchens around the world. It also said that the ingredients were used extensively in cosmetics..... A couple of laboratories who were involved speculated about a drying powder.

    Anyway, Margarito was found not guilty by the Commission but was penalised because they said he was the head of his team. Some of the Commission during the deliberations wanted to exonerate him completely.

    Has it never occurred to you hound-dogs that the reason Arum supported him even against one of his two top money-makers, was because, as a lawyer he could see that the guy was innocent. It was his duty to stand behind him.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Snake...
      that doesn't prove anything

      peterson was never suspended
      Peterson was involved with synthetic testosterone. AND...he lost one of his titles. So you are wrong for several reasons.

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      • Zano-24
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        #43
        Oh boy, people still defending this cheater? He got caught trying to cheat vs Mosley and he blamed it on his trainer. I remember when Cotto vs Margarito 2 was going down, Margarito clearly said "He didn't know" and "He hasn't spoken to his ex trainer since that happened". Just put this in your head for a second. Look how much Margarito landed on P.Williams and look at his face. Look how much Mosley landed on Cotto and look at Cotto's face at the end of the fight. Now all of a sudden Cotto looks like his face ran through a blender after he fought Margarito? Mind you that Mosley ends up TKO Magarito right after... Evidence suggest he cheated vs Cotto.

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          #44
          Originally posted by HanzGruber
          He had a doctors note. And op why did marg look like **** in his next fight vs non bums. I might be wrong here but did his trainer admit to putting in there vs Mosley?
          The trainer said it was his fault and Margarito was not aware. He said that his bag was full of all sorts of junk and was always left open in the gym where guys would occasionally drop their used gauze pads in when they'd finished workouts.

          And the whole damned thing was about a USED gauze pad. Nothing more. it was technically illegal not to use a new one. That was IT. The ignorant clowns on this site make me sick.

          That double-bellied porker Richardson was doing his little Sherlock Holmes stunt again to get a little more PR and cause trouble, just because he could.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
            He wasn't banned because he didn't get the chance to use the hardening gauze.
            Did you never hear of the experiment with Plaster-of-Paris done by Boxing Illustrated attended by 50 experts and conducted by Cleveland Williams to prove or disprove Jack Kearns' accusation that he plastered Jack Dempsey's gloves before the Wiillard fight.

            It was immediately DIS-proven as the wraps, well lathered with plaster and well dried, began to crumble to powder inside the gloves after the first 2 punches on the heavy bag.

            People like you should be allowed to post only through a fact-checker.

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            • Downy_tax
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              #46
              Margarito cheated that all I needed to know...

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                #47
                Originally posted by marvelousmatt
                I call BS on this one and I love Margarito. He used a well-know substance known as Plaster of Paris, which is a crystalized salt that hardens like thin plaster. I have seen a dude wrap his hands in a boxing gym and an old timer apply it to his wraps to show what it looks and feels like about 18-20 years ago myself.

                I'm not saying that you're a liar or that your memory has failed you but....I refer you to the Boxing Illustrated-Cleveland Williams experiment that I've just mentioned in a post just above. I'm sure it must be on the internet. I myself have the original magazine in which it was described.

                The FIRST Commission guy in the dressing room to handle the gauze pad said that it was "slightly stiff in a few spots as if there has been drops of water".

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                • Alx.
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                  #48
                  He's a cheater, deal with it

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                  • MRCHOKEaMF
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by humanpunchingbg
                    Margarito in his fights after Cotto I. Can someone tell me how the outcome of these fights may suggest Margarito may have been cheating before the Mosley fight?

                    Mosley - Margarito claims he was dehydrated and struggled to make weight for the fight,being caught attempting to cheat had nothing to do with his loss against this confessed steroid user. He never fought at 147 again.

                    Garcia - Has never been knocked out. Margarito has never known as a big puncher,he's a pressure fighter.

                    Pacquiao - Faster and much lighter than Margarito, Pacquiao never allowed himself to be cornered or trapped around the ropes. Punched and ran.

                    Cotto II - Unlike the first fight Cotto used more movement and clinching to neutralize Margarito's pressure. Like the first fight Cotto started slowing down towards the late rounds, Cotto working on Margarito's vulnerable eye early stopped Margarito from being able capitalize on Cotto's obvious lack of heart and stamina.
                    Cause Mosley RAN his ass up out of the mf! He looked like **** after he got busted.

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                    • MRCHOKEaMF
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                      #50
                      MOSLEY DESTROYED MARGARITO'S CAREER! the wraps **** was caught during that fight, be took one of the worse ass-whippings in recent memory for a reigning world champion, his whole career has been called into question!

                      guess its true too much Sugar is bad for you

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