Originally posted by Kuyukut
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Emanuel Steward "Manny Pacquiao has to be in the top dozen of ATGs"
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Found this list of his
http://www.********boxing.com/weblog...p=31784&more=1
George Foreman > Manny Pacquiao and Roberto Duran apparently.
You can tell Steward didnt really care about all time rankings. Good on him too. He was too busy being important to the sport
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Yes Pac is where Emmanuel says Pac is. Pac fought guys of the calibre of MAB and Morrales and never looked back and he fought regularly every 6 months top opposition and he has 8 belt holder or something like that.
Not fight once every 18months like Floyd does. BH can even do what Floyd does at BHs advanced age.
Pac has done things no one has done before, so he is considered as a GOAT.
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I would personally have him off the top of my head in at least the top 25. Then it would come down to nitpicking through careers. Manny has really had an incredible career. So has Mayweather for that matter, for talent I think Floyd falls in the top 5 most talented fighters I have ever seen. In terms of accomplishments I would have him somewhere around Pacquiao. Lets see how they both finish out their respective careers, even though they now they are both past their best they can still add significantly to their respective legacies.
I think it will be a long time until we see another Pacquiao or another Mayweather...a very long time. Manny was not as technically proficient as some other ATG's, but his combination of athleticism, speed, punch power, and underrated boxing ability puts him up there with the best, he is a very unique fighter, and it's hard to compare him to anyone before, and that's why I think a lot of trainers, fans, and past fighters don't know how to take him.
It makes me laugh when people say Broner is the new Mayweather, or on that level, even before Paulie I knew I wasn't seeing those skills, those precise movements, that type of ring smarts. Floyd is truly special.
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a public ************ thread swiftly turns into an attack on floyd and floyd fans. insecure paklas as usual.
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Originally posted by Silky_Smooth View PostGreat fighter but top 12 atg is absurd. He's not even the greatest of this generation. Floyd is way above him and Marquez is Pacquiao's papi.
You cant be submissive on the sidelines viewing the horizon and taking advantage of the situation like a lion in the Serengeti. You have to be an active parcipant in proceedings and not a voyeaur.
That's why JMM cant be seriously considered above Pac, living off of one performances against Pac.
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Pacquiao in the Duran group
performance against the best, not just all of these records and eight or nine championships.
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