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  • Ray Corso
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    Sergio "great" or "myth"??

    First I'll say that coordination and boxing skills are high with Sergio. He has some ring generalship and knows how to set a pace to his advantage very well. BUT!!! The talk about this young man being a "great fighter" gets to be ridiculous to me! Not unlike any other novice pro he fought no one coming up and his "first" test was a disaster KO loss to Margarieto! His "second" test was a dec. draw to Cintron!! His "third" test was a dec. loss to Williams! His "fourth" test is a dec. win over Pavlik! His biggest win to date is not even over a middleweight in a KO win rematch of Williams!

    None of these wins or looses are against great fighters by any means!
    if anyone thinks his win over Junior is a defineing moment you really need to look into tennis or golf!

    This guy is a mover who knows distance and has traps that these ordinary opponents fall into (to his credit) He has very good head movement and upper body movement too! He slides to both sides very well and has an effortless manner about him.

    However;
    His movement becomes "running" when confrontations begin. He's not very good at tieing up and walking off! His recupertive powers aren't very good and his punching power is average! From 1997 to 2007 other than Margarieto the guy fought no one! Ten years of fighting under the main event fighters isn't exactly a great fighters beginning!
    Using injuries as an excuse in his last outing gets a little old because he did train and was considered to be 100% to fight! If he was reinjuried in the fight that maybe a reason for his poor performance but the fact remains he was given a lesson from another good not great fighter who fought harder than Sergio did!

    When a better than average boxer who has average power is considered a great fighter thats Hype to me! I say this because the fighter himself has declared himself as one of the best ever and I'm sorry but this guy is NOT a top ten Middleweight Champ let alone a top twenty middleweight fighter!

    A talented boxer with speedy hands and feet ? YES! A great all around fighter? NO!!

    Half his time as a pro was spent as a welter with a few lightwelters thrown in for lunch! I personally don't like Sergio's style because of the absence of confrontations along with his inability or choice not to take center ring and box from that vantage point!! His choice and his career which has been successfull without my input hahahaha!! However the word and meaning "great" has been diluted to the meaning of "above average not spectascular but generally accepted by people who don't know" HA!

    Good luck to Sergio in his acting career in South America! Ray Corso
    Last edited by Ray Corso; 07-01-2013, 07:18 PM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Ray Corso
    First I'll say that coordination and boxing skills are high with Sergio. He has some ring generalship and knows how to set a pace to his advantage very well. BUT!!! The talk about this young man being a "great fighter" gets to be ridiculous to me! Not unlike any other novice pro he fought no one coming up and his "first" test was a disaster KO loss to Margarieto! His "second" test was a dec. draw to Cintron!! His "third" test was a dec. loss to Williams! His "fourth" test is a dec. win over Pavlik! His biggest win to date is not even over a middleweight in a KO win rematch of Williams!

    None of these wins or looses are against great fighters by any means!
    if anyone thinks his win over Junior is a defineing moment you really need to look into tennis or golf!

    This guy is a mover who knows distance and has traps that these ordinary opponents fall into (to his credit) He has very good head movement and upper body movement too! He slides to both sides very well and has an effortless manner about him.

    However;
    His movement becomes "running" when confrontations begin. He's not very good at tieing up and walking off! His recupertive powers aren't very good and his punching power is average! From 1997 to 2007 other than Margarieto the guy fought no one! Ten years of fighting under the main event fighters isn't exactly a great fighters beginning!
    Using injuries as an excuse in his last outing gets a little old because he did train and was considered to be 100% to fight! If he was reinjuried in the fight that maybe a reason for his poor performance but the fact remains he was given a lesson from another good not great fighter who fought harder than Sergio did!

    When a better than average boxer who has average power is considered a great fighter thats Hype to me! I say this because the fighter himself has declared himself as one of the best ever and I'm sorry but this guy is NOT a top ten Middleweight Champ let alone a top twenty middleweight fighter!

    A talented boxer with speedy hands and feet ? YES! A great all around fighter? NO!!

    Half his time as a pro was spent as a welter with a few lightwelters thrown in for lunch! I personally don't like Sergio's style because of the absence of confrontations along with his inability or choice not to take center ring and box from that vantage point!! His choice and his career which has been successfull without my input hahahaha!! However the word and meaning "great" has been delouted to the meaning of "above average not spectascular but generally accepted by people who don't know" HA!

    Good luck to Sergio in his acting career in South America! Ray Corso
    Sergio is overrated.

    William's, Cintron, Pavlik were all very beatable.

    Chavez Jr meh.

    The day he faces someone that is regarded a 50/50 such as Golovkin is a day he will be tested. Dibella has ducked Golovkin for a bit now.

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    • bojangles1987
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      #3
      I've always found Sergio a little bit overrated. I stick by it. He was very good at his best, but he's not great and was never the best fighter in the world.

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      • SlySlickSmooth
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        #4
        A fighter with athleticism and talent given him which allows him to stop most boxers that dream of becoming an "elite." Is Martinez an elite? No. Is he a better fighter than Miguel Cotto? Unless proven otherwise, no.

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          Originally posted by Master Chief
          Sergio is overrated.

          William's, Cintron, Pavlik were all very beatable.

          Chavez Jr meh.

          The day he faces someone that is regarded a 50/50 such as Golovkin is a day he will be tested. Dibella has ducked Golovkin for a bit now.
          Williams and Pavlik were the favorites going in as Sergio was moving up from 154 to fight them. A lot of people here thought Chavez Jr. would steamroll Martinez.

          Golovkin is a career middleweight (taller and heavier than Sergio), Sergio fought half his career at 147. If Sergio fights him (as he said he would) and beats him, more props to him.

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          • Ezzard Charles
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            margarito whooped him.....

            watch that fight.... sergio's not all that different from back then....

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            • BafanaBafana
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              #7
              Originally posted by EzzardCharles
              margarito whooped him.....

              watch that fight.... sergio's not all that different from back then....
              Except he had only been a pro for a year (Marg had 6) and that was his first fight outside of Argentina. Margarito was a more established fighter at the time w/ 11 fights in the U.S. and about to hit his prime (would go on to fight for a title only a year later). Sergio was also a part-time boxer at the time, he had to work several jobs to sustain his boxing career.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #8
                Originally posted by EzzardCharles
                margarito whooped him.....

                watch that fight.... sergio's not all that different from back then....
                Yes, Sergio really is that different than back then. Come on.

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  TS... The same guy who talks **** about Rigo. Meh.


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                  • Bermuda
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                    Williams and Pavlik were the favorites going in as Sergio was moving up from 154 to fight them. A lot of people here thought Chavez Jr. would steamroll Martinez.

                    Golovkin is a career middleweight (taller and heavier than Sergio), Sergio fought half his career at 147. If Sergio fights him (as he said he would) and beats him, more props to him.
                    lmao no they didn't..almost everyone (with a brain at least) expected sergio to completely outclass chavez jr...that 12th round was pretty amazing though..

                    old fight thread with poll results: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=563568

                    and williams spent most of his career below 160...
                    Last edited by Bermuda; 07-01-2013, 07:52 PM.

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