Does anyone really think Canelo has a chance?

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  • VaLELT
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    #11
    Originally posted by Gatling
    This is what bugs me whenever Mayweather or a top fighter signs a fight that fans think they won't. But Floyd is probably the best case of it. It happened with Castillo rematch, Mosley, Cotto, Guerero. Even Baldomir!

    It's either a pre-emptive "Oh, hes gonna duck!" then when he signs it's "Oh, fighter B has no chance anyways"

    Just enjoy the fight night.
    Originally posted by VaLELT
    The only reasonable example you had on that list was Castillo (and that was only because so many people thought floyd lost the first fight and it was before he was a superstar). The other people on the list would have been good examples (except baldomir...come on man) but for when he chose to fight them. Mayweather openly dismissed shane mosley as washed up with "the shane mosley with 5 losses on his record...that shane mosley" when he chose to fight JMM (which was a reasonable choice I'll give him). Then you wonder why we say "why are you fighting shane mosley, he's washed up"?

    He didn't want anything to do with Miguel Cotto in 2008 (a year in which he didn't fight at all) but in 2012 after it was quite obvious to everyone in the world that he could barely win fights against Joshua Clottey and Juri Foreman and he had been crushed by margarito and pacquiao you wanna say Flloyd was brave for fighting Cotto instead of Pacquiao? Next he beats the crap out of a guy who was fighting at junior lightweight 4 fights ago and KO's victor Ortiz in a display of the utmost boxing skill and sportsmanly poise. Floyd could very well still be undefeated if he would have taken the fights with those guys when they were hard but he didn't so it will always be a matter of dispute and that is floyds fault.
    Nowadays all you have to do to qualify for a floyd mayweather fight is beat Andre Berto.

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    • ModernTalking
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      #12
      Originally posted by GGBoxer
      Canelo is slow and flatfooted. Mayweather will easly pick him apart.

      I dont get all the hype arround Canelo
      I don't either...all them fools picking Canelo need to realize that Canelo will be drained and not at his best weight at 152. Had the fight been at 154 I would understand them picking Canelo but at 152 Drainelo will have no chance.

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      • A-Wolf
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        #13
        That right hand he landed on Trout is the shining ray of hope for a lot of people. Unfortunately, Floyd saw it too.

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        • White_Knight
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          #14
          Yes, he definitely has a chance. Guerrero won 3 rounds on all judges scorecards against Floyd. Cotto won a similar amount. Canelo is better than Guerrero in all departments. Furthermore, he is fresher than Cotto and has almost 2 inches more reach in either arm. I'd say his hand speed is superior to those 2 fighters too.

          If I had to bet on Canelo winning a certain number of rounds I'd choose 5, but if he manages to get to Floyd early and make him lose his equilibrium he could pull off an upset.

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          • Gatling
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            #15
            Originally posted by VaLELT
            The only reasonable example you had on that list was Castillo (and that was only because so many people thought floyd lost the first fight and it was before he was a superstar). The other people on the list would have been good examples (except baldomir...come on man) but for when he chose to fight them. Mayweather openly dismissed shane mosley as washed up with "the shane mosley with 5 losses on his record...that shane mosley" when he chose to fight JMM (which was a reasonable choice I'll give him). Then you wonder why we say "why are you fighting shane mosley, he's washed up"?

            He didn't want anything to do with Miguel Cotto in 2008 (a year in which he didn't fight at all) but in 2012 after it was quite obvious to everyone in the world that he could barely win fights against Joshua Clottey and Juri Foreman and he had been crushed by margarito and pacquiao you wanna say Flloyd was brave for fighting Cotto instead of Pacquiao? Next he beats the crap out of a guy who was fighting at junior lightweight 4 fights ago and KO's victor Ortiz in a display of the utmost boxing skill and sportsmanly poise. Floyd could very well still be undefeated if he would have taken the fights with those guys when they were hard but he didn't so it will always be a matter of dispute and that is floyds fault.
            Maybe in your mind, but every single time there were people saying Floyd wouldn't sign, or that Floyd was ducking.

            There is even a vid of Brian Kenny asking him to fight Baldomir and Floyd side stepped the question, then everyone of course ran with it.

            Then when he signs, or when he wins easy it's bring on the revisionist history! Very lame.

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            • king Ketchel
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              #16
              Originally posted by ModernTalking
              I don't either...all them fools picking Canelo need to realize that Canelo will be drained and not at his best weight at 152. Had the fight been at 154 I would understand them picking Canelo but at 152 Drainelo will have no chance.
              you sound 12 years old with the name calling

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              • leathernvouges
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                #17
                I think he has all the tools to win except big fight experience but then again he has been on floyds recent undercards, I don't kno if that helps but if the training camp goes well and he's in good shape I think he will win if he can adjust and switch the game plan like a person with 40+ fights should b able 2. I don't think he should chase him tho unless he feels Floyd is hurt

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                • AntonTheMeh
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                  #18
                  I'm a fan of floyd, but I'm not gonna act like i haven't given most of his recent opponents a chance. as slight a chance as it may seems, it's a chance.

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                  • WESS
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Gatling
                    This is what bugs me whenever Mayweather or a top fighter signs a fight that fans think they won't. But Floyd is probably the best case of it. It happened with Castillo rematch, Mosley, Cotto, Guerero. Even Baldomir!

                    It's either a pre-emptive "Oh, hes gonna duck!" then when he signs it's "Oh, fighter B has no chance anyways"

                    Just enjoy the fight night.
                    It's been this way for years. Nothing new.

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                    • FrankieClutch
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                      #20
                      yeah, I think he has a much better chance than what most people on these threads give him. His hands are faster than what people give him credit for, and judging from the Trout fight, his head movement has improved immensely.

                      The only thing that really worries me about Canelo is his stamina. If he comes in with the same conditioning as he did with Trout, Mayweather is going to take over and run away with the fight from round 7 or 8 on.

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