Lebedev vs Guillermo Jones revisited. From a philosophical standpoint.

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Salardo
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 1364
    • 135
    • 1
    • 7,933

    #1

    Lebedev vs Guillermo Jones revisited. From a philosophical standpoint.

    I was thinking about the brutal Lebedev vs Guillermo Jones fight recently again. First of all, I hope Lebedev's eye is fine again and that he can come back. Him winning those rounds with only one eye was one of the most unbelievable things I ever saw in a ring. He kept coming, outboxing and outpunching Jones with only one eye.
    Okay and here is my "philosophical" standpoint: Lebedev was making it a habit to fight old, past prime legends like Roy Jones and James Toney to get good names on his record. And we all know Lebedev is a pretty damn good fighter but at the same time we know Toney and Roy were legends. So - a guy making a name for himself by beating up old, "helpless" fighters leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Always did.

    Danny Green did the same thing in Australia until he ran into Tarver. These guys ship legends like Roy Jones to their country and celebrate the hometown hero as if he just beat a prime Muhammad Ali.

    So I think about how Lebedev beat Roy Jones, then Toney and then he wanted to have another supposedly "winable" fight against another "old" past his prime "good" or even "great" fighter named Guillermo Jones. But this time it didn't work. Fate didn't allow it.
    Guillermo Jones still had that chin, that toughness and that heart, something Lebedev didn't expect.
  • T-97
    BuyTheTicketTakeTheRide
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 14808
    • 566
    • 628
    • 22,958

    #2
    I don't see how this is a philosophical point of view... you're just saying he was picking old guys with big names and then it backfired

    Comment

    • Enzo Mc is SHIT
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jul 2009
      • 3947
      • 168
      • 1
      • 17,498

      #3
      ****ing right. Lebedev got what he deserved.

      Comment

      • Salardo
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Mar 2011
        • 1364
        • 135
        • 1
        • 7,933

        #4
        Originally posted by T-97
        I don't see how this is a philosophical point of view... you're just saying he was picking old guys with big names and then it backfired
        Yeah it backfired. And I explained it from a philosophical point of view. If you can't understand that, I don't know how to make it any more clear.

        Comment

        • The Hammer
          Banned
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Dec 2007
          • 50797
          • 3,416
          • 8,704
          • 58,851

          #5
          Originally posted by Enzo Mc is ****
          ****ing right. Lebedev got what he deserved.
          It was his manager Vladimir Hryunov who was having him fight the old faded guys.

          Lebedev has now left Hryunov, and as well he's no longer working with Kostya Tszyu.

          Comment

          • daggum
            All time great
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Feb 2008
            • 43720
            • 4,664
            • 3
            • 166,270

            #6
            ledbedev should have retired after beating toney. he would have been an all time great like calzaghe.

            Comment

            • T-97
              BuyTheTicketTakeTheRide
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Nov 2007
              • 14808
              • 566
              • 628
              • 22,958

              #7
              Originally posted by Halls of Fame
              Yeah it backfired. And I explained it from a philosophical point of view. If you can't understand that, I don't know how to make it any more clear.
              I don't think "philosophy" means what you think it does...

              Please read this definition then explain what was 'philosophical' about your post.

              Comment

              Working...
              TOP