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  • #11
    Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
    Chavez Jr. has a great chin, 12 round stamina and would come into the ring weighing 185 pounds. He would survive GGG's early onslaught and push his weight on GGG. After 5-6 rounds GGG would gas terribly and Chavez will start taking over and possibly stop him. This is a very intriguing fight, I don't see GGG stopping Chavez, but if he did it would have to be in the first 8 rounds. It would be an easy FOTY candidate no doubt.
    Just like he done to Zbik right?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
      Chavez Jr. has a great chin, 12 round stamina and would come into the ring weighing 185 pounds. He would survive GGG's early onslaught and push his weight on GGG. After 5-6 rounds GGG would gas terribly and Chavez will start taking over and possibly stop him. This is a very intriguing fight, I don't see GGG stopping Chavez, but if he did it would have to be in the first 8 rounds. It would be an easy FOTY candidate no doubt.
      Chavez's stamina is still in question because he wasn't fighting hard 3 minutes of every round against Sergio. We know he can take a beating, but it's due to his weight advantage and not his superior chin. We'll only know how good his chin is once he starts getting hit by SMW/LHWs. Martinez was beating him up with bruised hands and Jr. was cringing from his body shots. The only way I see Chavez winning is if 3G gasses out, but Chavez will most likely be too drained to do take advantage.

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      • #13
        Golovkin would murder Chavez.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
          Chavez's stamina is still in question because he wasn't fighting hard 3 minutes of every round against Sergio. We know he can take a beating, but it's due to his weight advantage and not his superior chin. We'll only know how good his chin is once he starts getting hit by SMW/LHWs. Martinez was beating him up with bruised hands and Jr. was cringing from his body shots. The only way I see Chavez winning is if 3G gasses out, but Chavez will most likely be too drained to do take advantage.
          He wasn't?
          Dude was just walking forward the whole freaking fight.
          I think it was his plan to wait till the 12th because I can't believe people paid to watch him walk around the ring and get beat up.
          People praise what he did at the end, and it's true that it's not how you start but how you finish.... but dude did literally nothing till then.
          11.5 wasted rounds

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          • #15
            I've only seen one cat deal with that 180 plus pounds of pressure and he barely made it to the finish line...I'll take Jr in this one all day

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
              Chavez Jr. has a great chin, 12 round stamina and would come into the ring weighing 185 pounds. He would survive GGG's early onslaught and push his weight on GGG. After 5-6 rounds GGG would gas terribly and Chavez will start taking over and possibly stop him. This is a very intriguing fight, I don't see GGG stopping Chavez, but if he did it would have to be in the first 8 rounds. It would be an easy FOTY candidate no doubt.
              ggg wrestles guys twice his size in training...I highly doubt it

              I think ggg pummels him for 12 rounds...maybe he'd even be able to break chavez down and make him quit...seriously wouldn't surprise me

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              • #17
                Originally posted by hougigo View Post
                He wasn't?
                Dude was just walking forward the whole freaking fight.
                I think it was his plan to wait till the 12th because I can't believe people paid to watch him walk around the ring and get beat up.
                People praise what he did at the end, and it's true that it's not how you start but how you finish.... but dude did literally nothing till then.
                11.5 wasted rounds
                What is more taxing on stamina: taking a beating for 11 rounds or dishing out that beating for 11 rounds? I feel like Martinez exerted much more energy moving and throwing against an opponent that outweighed him by 10lbs+. Even when Chavez had him against the ropes, he didn't get much done. Chavez is mentally tough to take the beating without quitting, but he didn't prove the stamina I think he'll need to beat a 100% conditioned GGG.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View Post
                  I've only seen one cat deal with that 180 plus pounds of pressure and he barely made it to the finish line...I'll take Jr in this one all day
                  So you must have missed Zbik, Rubio, Lyell, Vanda...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                    What is more taxing on stamina: taking a beating for 11 rounds or dishing out that beating for 11 rounds? I feel like Martinez exerted much more energy moving and throwing against an opponent that outweighed him by 10lbs+. Even when Chavez had him against the ropes, he didn't get much done. Chavez is mentally tough to take the beating without quitting, but he didn't prove the stamina I think he'll need to beat a 100% conditioned GGG.
                    No doubt doing the attacking is exhausting. I think Martinez was head hunting him all day too.
                    DIdn't he throw like 1000 punches or close to it?
                    Chavez waited entirely too long.... to the point where he needed a KO.

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                    • #20
                      That's his opinion but I sure don't share it. Chavez lost almost every round to Martinez. Chavez is so easy to hit a good fighter damn near can't miss him with a punch. With a puncher like GGG that is a KO loss waiting to happen even if Chavez does have an iron jaw. Chavez averages a bit over 30 punches a round and GGG throws more than twice that many punches a round. GGG is better than Chavez in every way in my opinion. GGG wins every round until he finished Chavez off.

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