Marquez Swarchenegger

[lparm]

This bull again, the ignorance of some people is ridiculous. Read a biomechanics and kinesiology book!

Brah studying human body movement will never convince me that a guy at the age of 40 working with a known steroid pushing coach could suddenly become a mini hulk with the power to drop a guy he couldn't dent in 36 previous rounds. Wake up the answer is right in front of you. Oh and if you think him not testing positive is "proof" just remember the notorious steroid cheat Ben Johnson said he started juicing in 1985 and was caught in 1988 because he timed the injections right. In a 12-16 week camp there's enough time to load up and get off quickly enough to let it pass through your system.

[Stanly Ketchel]

Brah studying human body movement will never convince me that a guy at the age of 40 working with a known steroid pushing coach could suddenly become a mini hulk with the power to drop a guy he couldn't dent in 36 previous rounds. Wake up the answer is right in front of you. Oh and if you think him not testing positive is "proof" just remember the notorious steroid cheat Ben Johnson said he started juicing in 1985 and was caught in 1988 because he timed the injections right. In a 12-16 week camp there's enough time to load up and get off quickly enough to let it pass through your system.

How would you explain going life and death with oscar larios at 126 then a couple years later walking through Cotto and Margarito shots at 145 and 151? Take a look a fight weeks pics for Margo-Pac. Wake up the answer is right in front of you.

[Stanly Ketchel]

When Manny was roided up to his dome.... his fans would get deeply hurt and offended when the accusations were made. Yet, Manny gets decapitated in his last fight and those same fans are quick to start pointing fingers and accusing Marquez of roiding. If Manny would have never roided to start.... he wouldnt have the same resume.

Couldnt have said it better....

[lparm]

How would you explain going life and death with oscar larios at 126 then a couple years later walking through Cotto and Margarito shots at 145 and 151? Take a look a fight weeks pics for Margo-Pac. Wake up the answer is right in front of you.

Manny was weight drained as he got older and boiling down became harder.. Look at other legends like Floyd who was pretty drained at 135 when he fought Castillo or more recently Chad being weight drained at 168. It affects your performance.

[Dagomba]

By explosive and fast you mean roided as fack because the man desperately wanted to win at all costs.

He has never failed a drug test in his life.

[toshmurph]

Brah studying human body movement will never convince me that a guy at the age of 40 working with a known steroid pushing coach could suddenly become a mini hulk with the power to drop a guy he couldn't dent in 36 previous rounds. Wake up the answer is right in front of you. Oh and if you think him not testing positive is "proof" just remember the notorious steroid cheat Ben Johnson said he started juicing in 1985 and was caught in 1988 because he timed the injections right. In a 12-16 week camp there's enough time to load up and get off quickly enough to let it pass through your system.

I have no doubt that Memo has Marquez using TRT as its only natural the guys nearing 40 and it's not illegal if kept in check, BHops been using it for a while..

But if you think Roids makes you hit harder you are quite frankly an idiot! This isnt baseball you dont put muscles on fists! Pacquiao has been in numerous wars its clear its gonna start having an affect, and the KO shot was a perfectly timed counter!

Marquez never lifted or done srint work before joining up with Heredia, so naturally a guy who is in training camp doing explosive reps and sprints is going to gain muscle mass and lose more fat than he would normally when he wasn't doing those things before, would you not agree?

And a side note on Roids, with the conditioning work that Marquez was doing his lung capacity would have been jacked, leading to great lengths in stamina and recovery! Look at Holyfield and Mosley vs De La Hoya II... This was the first fight that I've seen Marquez seem like he was gassing! Explain that??

[Stanly Ketchel]

Manny was weight drained as he got older and boiling down became harder.. Look at other legends like Floyd who was pretty drained at 135 when he fought Castillo or more recently Chad being weight drained at 168. It affects your performance.

Point is my man I believe they were both roiding. Whats good for the goosen is good for the tutor.

[SplitSecond]

roids of not, he trained extremely hard for the fourth pacquiao fight, i think even having an exceptionally long training camp(6 months?, was in hard training months before the official training camp)

with bradley you can tell he hasn't trained a good while, looking all skinny and sht, muscle dropped off quick

[lparm]

I have no doubt that Memo has Marquez using TRT as its only natural the guys nearing 40 and it's not illegal if kept in check, BHops been using it for a while..

But if you think Roids makes you hit harder you are quite frankly an idiot! This isnt baseball you dont put muscles on fists! Pacquiao has been in numerous wars its clear its gonna start having an affect, and the KO shot was a perfectly timed counter!

Marquez never lifted or done srint work before joining up with Heredia, so naturally a guy who is in training camp doing explosive reps and sprints is going to gain muscle mass and lose more fat than he would normally when he wasn't doing those things before, would you not agree?

And a side note on Roids, with the conditioning work that Marquez was doing his lung capacity would have been jacked, leading to great lengths in stamina and recovery! Look at Holyfield and Mosley vs De La Hoya II... This was the first fight that I've seen Marquez seem like he was gassing! Explain that??

It might have had something to do with Manny smashing his nose so JMM was breathing through all that blood. Before Manny busted it open there was no breathing problems. You forget that little detail?

[lparm]

roids of not, he trained extremely hard for the fourth pacquiao fight, i think even having an exceptionally long training camp(6 months?, was in hard training months before the official training camp)

with bradley you can tell he hasn't trained a good while, looking all skinny and sht, muscle dropped off quick

Or he stopped juicing