Regardless of the manner in which he obtains the belt; it is still the belt. Should Valuev not be considered a belt holder because he won the belt from Ruiz who techinically should have lost it to Toney? I'd say there's still a chance of Zab winning this fight so to rule him off as beaten all ready or not a game opponent is kind of a joke. He'd probably beat Boldomir more easily than Zab unless Zab just shows up for a paycheck.
IF Floyd beats Judah....will you consider him a 4 time champ?
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But Toney tested positive for steroids, so I can't argue there..Originally posted by Dirt E GomezRegardless of the manner in which he obtains the belt; it is still the belt. Should Valuev not be considered a belt holder because he won the belt from Ruiz who techinically should have lost it to Toney? I'd say there's still a chance of Zab winning this fight so to rule him off as beaten all ready or not a game opponent is kind of a joke. He'd probably beat Boldomir more easily than Zab unless Zab just shows up for a paycheck.
But I'm saying Judah has a "official" loss to Baldomir, not a NC..
I am so pissed off at this sport right now.....
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you and me both, brother.Originally posted by KRS-ONEBut Toney tested positive for steroids, so I can't argue there..
But I'm saying Judah has a "official" loss to Baldomir, not a NC..
I am so pissed off at this sport right now.....
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The official loss doesn't matter. If Judah comes in as a game opponent he'll give Floyd a tougher test than Boldomir would.... not to mention he all ready beat Mitchell who is a belt holder at welterweight.Originally posted by KRS-ONEBut Toney tested positive for steroids, so I can't argue there..
But I'm saying Judah has a "official" loss to Baldomir, not a NC..
I am so pissed off at this sport right now.....
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Fix, see my sig? 20 billion point bet? I have Mayweather beating Judah....
Originally posted by The Fixi still got zab in this fight, does anyone think that the zab that fought baldomir is going to show up against pbf?Comment
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coming from the person who picked judah to ko floyd...Originally posted by DiegoFuegoBeating Judah right now would mean about as much for Mayweather as De La Hoya beating Sturm: a meaningless belt to hold up and say, "Look, I won another title in another division!" without mentioning how pathetic the belt is and the fact that they didn't fight the linear champion. All politics.
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He was in his hometown(1), fought at MSG (2) and knew he needed to look good to justify a match with Mayweather (3). There's nothing to make me believe we'll see a different Zab.
Originally posted by The Fixi still got zab in this fight, does anyone think that the zab that fought baldomir is going to show up against pbf?Comment
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