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  • rjack58
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    #41
    Ward would do BETTER going it alone associating with whatever promoter he chooses.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #42
      Originally posted by New England
      i don't want to take lightly anything concerning a man's health. that said "brain seizures?"

      there's no such thing. a seizure is a seizure, and there's no specific diagnosis of a seizure of just the brain.

      maybe pavlik is having seizures. i've got an aunt who has seizures, but she's disabled, and obviously not a pro boxer.


      kelly pavlik has serious mental issues. his facebook is flat out disturbing. he's an alcoholic [2x in rehab, i believe,] and it looks like he's seriously depressed. he could be mistaken, or simply making something up. there is no such thing as a "brain seizure," and it's not something a doctor would tell him that he's experiencing.
      Yes... Good point...
      But I wonder why (on Earth) Ward had ever had a deal with this poor Pavlik? Even "on paper"... I don't judge Kelly, I speak about Andre...

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      • JJRod
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        #43
        Good career move by Ward. He should have done this sooner.

        If only Martinez would have left Dibella for TR or GB he too would have had bigger fights by now.

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        • hectari
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          #44
          Originally posted by Body Movin'
          pacquiao did the same thing when marquez was robbed. boxing "fans" were just butthurt this time cause it wasn't in pacquiao's favor. tim didn't do anything differently. you're saying that's the only reason though? how about having a **** promoter too?
          Uh are you serious? Pacquiao never went around boasting and bragging about beating Marquez. Bradley has been talking mad **** still, the guy doesn't know how to handle himself, if he remain humble like he was before more people would like him, he should have just said I felt I won, and than later say hey if Pac wants a rematch for sure Ill give him one since he gave me this opportunity.

          Instead of acting like a fool hiding in his wheelchair at home giving phone interviews saying he schooled Pacman, or beat him so badly that he softened him up for Marquez, the guy is delusional.

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          • hectari
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            #45
            Originally posted by Body Movin'
            did pacquiao drop to his knees to kiss marquez's feet? admitted that he lost and handed the belt over? nope. that's what everybody ordered bradley to do for some reason. how was he any different from "admit i won, be a filipino."?

            arum has become a lousy promoter with a mediocre stable, it is what it is. i'm not interested in his biography.
            Body Movin what is wrong with you bro? stop getting emotional, you are clearly ignoring the point or missing the point, the people don't like Bradley and we are showing you why, because of the way he handled the situation, majority of people who like Pacquiao the casual fans always like that he is a humble warrior or doesn't talk trash, sure all boxers are confident but its how you present yourself to the public.

            Let Evander Holyfield tell you why Pacquiao is so loved.

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            • FeFist
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              It's the big one though isn't it? This is Ward's De La Hoya, it's as good as it gets in and around those divisions.
              No it isn't the big one, at least not the 'big one' in terms of what it would do for his future fights. De La Hoya was popular amongst the Americans and Mexicans. Chavez is only popular amongst Mexicans, he wouldn't boost his reputation with other Americans and there are not enough Mexican fighters in his division to make good of Chavez's fanbase.

              Really speaking Ward would have been better off beating down the British supper middleweights and European fighters. Seeing as that's the region his victories over Froch and Kessler are worth most.

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              • BTTAG145
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                #47
                It would be smarter to go to Golden Boy

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                • bose
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                  #48
                  I remember when Goosen signed Ward and Ward was looking like the next David Reid (Reid was a good fighter but he started to have terrable stamina problems and couldn't take a punch well getting knocked down, but skilled fighter) . And than somewhere out of the blue he was able to take a good punch, looked stronger on his legs.

                  Goosens sure did a great job at building Ward to the fighter he is today, they took his career very slow and it has paid off untill now that Ward wants out of their contract. Big praise by me to the Goosens who built a good fighter in Ward (gets extremly over rated at times by his fans) .

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                  • Pinoy4ever
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                    #49
                    Smart move Ward

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                    • teddycanyon
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bose
                      I remember when Goosen signed Ward and Ward was looking like the next David Reid (Reid was a good fighter but he started to have terrable stamina problems and couldn't take a punch well getting knocked down, but skilled fighter) . And than somewhere out of the blue he was able to take a good punch, looked stronger on his legs.

                      Goosens sure did a great job at building Ward to the fighter he is today, they took his career very slow and it has paid off untill now that Ward wants out of their contract. Big praise by me to the Goosens who built a good fighter in Ward (gets extremly over rated at times by his fans) .
                      this is all true, he was moved very slowly and carefully and this might be why he's at where he is today, especially after getting knocked down early in career.

                      Having said that, breaking from Goossen seems like an inevitability, he hasn't been getting him any good fights. At least with Arum he knows that a Chavez Jr. fight is right on-deck

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