should boxers who fail to make weight be suspended?

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  • Furn
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    #21
    Seems like Garcia had no real intention of making 126, he's moving up so didnt care about the title and wanted to take any advantage he could and make sure he won impressively.

    It's hard because Lopez has to take the fight, no one wins when it's called off. Suspension might be the only answer. You should at least have to try, not just buy your way out of it.

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    • Dr Rumack
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      #22
      Absolutely yes. Fighters abusing their 'A-side' status is sickening and this would at least be an added constraint to them doing so. Of course boxing is such a disorganised mess it would be very difficult to implement it, but that's no excuse to do nothing.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #23
        Originally posted by Pony Boy
        Even GGG made weight and in his 2days show it was clear that he had the flu and on fight night you could still see it on his face. Now that's professionalism.
        Yes but Golovkin basically walks around around 160 and doesnt have to deal with weight problems, so making weight with the flu was easy. Garcia on the other hand cuts like 15 pounds

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          #24
          i don't think that's appropriate. you'd see guys coming in to wiegh ins more drained than ever. eventually somebody would get seriously hurt because he didn't want his license suspended.


          the fines are enough. just make sure of it. if floyd mayweather misses weight, hit him big. if an ESPN fighter misses weight, hit him with a big percent. even if it's not a ton of money, it's still a percent of his earnings. you guys seriously overestimate the amount of money that boxers make. they get big paychecks, but they pay their team and pay taxes, and usually only see about half.

          when you and i are in the prime of our careers, making our best money (35-50, lets say,) these guys will be retired.


          a 150K fine to mikey garcia probably makes him feel sick. just imagine losing 150 K instantly....

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            #25
            Originally posted by New England
            i don't think that's appropriate. you'd see guys coming in to wiegh ins more drained than ever. eventually somebody would get seriously hurt because he didn't want his license suspended.
            That argument can be thrown out there for any effort to stop guys squeezing down into lower weight classes. Ultimately if you want to stop this behaviour you're required to make it less attractive for people to engage in it.

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              #26
              With a guy like Mayweather or someone a year long suspension wont really affect them since they only fight once a year. Only the fighters near the bottom or up and comers hat will affect

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                #27
                Originally posted by DosRounds
                With a guy like Mayweather or someone a year long suspension wont really affect them since they only fight once a year. Only the fighters near the bottom or up and comers hat will affect
                It would affect Mikey Garcia. Would have affected Adrien Broner too.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  That argument can be thrown out there for any effort to stop guys squeezing down into lower weight classes. Ultimately if you want to stop this behaviour you're required to make it less attractive for people to engage in it.


                  you're introducing a suspension that wouldn't be there otherwise, making it a very different scenario. i don't entirely see your point. a % is not equal to a suspension. andre berto was the gateway to floyd mayweather. squeezing down to berto weight would be a greater incentive to drain oneself than a percentage.


                  you're trying to stop people from missing weight, or rehydrating after weigh ins?
                  they're not always the same. garcia fighters boil down to nothing (donaire, rios, and his brother being the big three,) probably via the use of diuretics. that's very rare.

                  if you want to stop people from rehydrating, you move a weigh in to the same day. that will never happen, though, as vegas relies on weigh ins to get people staying in the hotels and ******** for an extra day.


                  if you're handing out suspensions to protect opponents from having to fight larger guys (IE out of concern for the opponent's health,) why allow the fight to go on? if you really want to generate a sanction to reduce the cases in which guys miss weight, that's it. don't let them fight. handing out suspensions post fight is a bit like catching a fighter taking PED's and letting him fight. i don't think it's a good idea, because it will further drain fighters, but if you're looking to protect guys (reduce the harmful scenarios in which there's a huge advantage of size,) that's how you'd do it.

                  lopez would rather take an extra percent and get paid for the evening, i can assure you.

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                  • Kagami Taiga
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                    #29
                    no way should there be suspensions for not making weight. wayyyyy too draconian. cancel the fight but dont send a boxer on a layoff that could damage his career. esp if we are talking 2 or 3 lbs. the crime does not fit the punishment.

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                      #30
                      Suspended for what? He basically broke a WBO "rule", not a boxing one. Making weight is a contract between the two fighters, and the belt organization in this case.

                      They should be heavily fined just like Garcia was. Being overweight is a big deal in my opinion and very unfair. I feel fights should be canceled

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