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  • craigus1990
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    #11
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    Interesting. What about the use of shins and elbows in Muay Thai? Don't you feel that it makes for a more brutal sport?
    Yeah it is more brutal... I won't deny that! But it is only brutal in the same sense as in boxing.... if you go toe to toe! If you stand and trade then it really does become a hard man contest with knees, elbows etc, but these are only useful up close.... but I found that the Thai boxers are not used to facing someone with fast foot speed and movement on the outside.... if you watch Thai fighters, they spend a lot of time midrange feinting... when they go up against someone who boxes from the outside with footspeed, I found they can't really cut the ring off and they plod forward a lot because their footing has to be in a certain position before they can generate power into their kicks which makes for a very rigid stance. Also I found a lot of the time they are focusing on the oppositions legs, looking out for kicks to defend against rather than punches... as the majority of their outside fighting/mid range fighting is kicks, they don't do so well looking out for solid jabs and straight rights....... I never faced a thai boxer with a decent jab. I found most times I would outbox the thai boxer but if you do get kicked hard then it hurts 10x more than a punch and I will admit to going down against Karen a couple of times with straight kicks to the mid section.... but hey that's life!

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #12
      Originally posted by craigus1990
      Yeah it is more brutal... I won't deny that! But it is only brutal in the same sense as in boxing.... if you go toe to toe! If you stand and trade then it really does become a hard man contest with knees, elbows etc, but these are only useful up close.... but I found that the Thai boxers are not used to facing someone with fast foot speed and movement on the outside.... if you watch Thai fighters, they spend a lot of time midrange feinting... when they go up against someone who boxes from the outside with footspeed, I found they can't really cut the ring off and they plod forward a lot because their footing has to be in a certain position before they can generate power into their kicks which makes for a very rigid stance. Also I found a lot of the time they are focusing on the oppositions legs, looking out for kicks to defend against rather than punches... as the majority of their outside fighting/mid range fighting is kicks, they don't do so well looking out for solid jabs and straight rights....... I never faced a thai boxer with a decent jab. I found most times I would outbox the thai boxer but if you do get kicked hard then it hurts 10x more than a punch and I will admit to going down against Karen a couple of times with straight kicks to the mid section.... but hey that's life!
      Wow! Great insight, man! Thanks for taking the time to share!

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        • Ogecca MaMa
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          #14
          Originally posted by craigus1990
          I have trained both in Muay Thai and Boxing, I trained in boxing much longer than Muay Thai though. The Muay Thai gym I was at is home of a 3 time womans world champ, undefeated, Karen Ousey and her Husband, former British Champ Howard Hughes. Sparred with Karen a few times (we are the same weight roughly) and some domestic champs and while it is tough I find the Muay Thai guys are very easy to hit and focus more on offense than defense making them susceptible to the jab and the way their footing is, they struggle against lots of movement as they have a more plodding style.
          I sure can tell, you havent trained neither boxing or thai box. Every person who at least trained for few years and knows more just basics would laugh at this fairy tail

          3 months of boxing and 4 months of muay-thai behind my shoulders

          edit: I admit I can't know if you trained or not - but the post remains the same. Bring it on friend)
          Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 06-14-2013, 11:06 PM.

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          • craigus1990
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            #15
            Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
            I sure can tell, you havent trained neither boxing or thai box. Every person who at least trained for few years and knows more just basics would laugh at this fairy tail

            3 months of boxing and 4 months of muay-thai behind my shoulders

            edit: I admit I can't know if you trained or not - but the post remains the same. Bring it on friend)
            I actually trained longer than you in both sports. I never had any competitive bouts in Muay Thai but I trained there for about a year. The Muay Thai gym is Planet Combat, you can check out the website if you want? They do Muay Thai, MMA, fitness classes etc but it is best for just Muay Thai as this is what Karen and Howard are both experts in. Karen has had one (maybe more now) MMA fight but it was against another Thai Boxer so it was just stand up Muay Thai but in a cage! She won btw. Undefeated in Muay Thai and MMA lol. But yeah I like Boxing a whole lot more than Muay Thai and trained in Boxing for a few years (since about 14 I think). So you can think that every1 who ever says anything about themselves online is a lie or you can think that there may actually be people on a boxing forum who have you know.... boxed!
            Last edited by craigus1990; 06-16-2013, 12:58 AM.

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