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  • Bigg Rigg
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    #11
    That dude right there, smh idk what to even say. What a waste!

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    • MikeRo1972
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      #12
      Dirrell backed out of his last 2 fights. Both ESPN cards. That tells me: 1) None of the premium cable networks want him. And 2). By backing out of 2 ESPN cards he effectively has turned his promising career into nothing but off tv fights because nobody is going to offer him any money to fight on tv anymore. Basically 50 cent is going to have to bundle him into a Gamboa or Dib undercard. That, or ask DiBella to throw him a bone at one of his Roseland Ballroom or Connecticut casino cards.

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      • 110110110
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        #13
        The truth is that he got scared fighting abraham, it has nothing to do with the suckerpunch, it happent in the earlyer rounds.

        That kind of fear lingers on.

        When i got to my 10 fight as a ameteur I fought a guy that wassent very talentet by hit hit like bassball bat and and was tricky at the same time, after that fight I knew what was coming if I continued boxing, and I didnt want that

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        • P4P Opinion
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          #14
          Originally posted by Hitman932
          It really cracks me up that people think Dirrell quit or faked it in the Abraham fight.

          Yes he was put down in the previous round but he hardly looked badly hurt and his legs never went.

          In the following round in which Abraham cheap shotted him, Arthur had not landed a single punch of any significance.

          What happened was Arthur got pissed off and frustrated that he couldn't capitalize on his knockdown so he did something he would have gotten away with in Germany.

          I challenge any one to post up the last round of that fight and show me one single punch that Abraham landed cleanly.
          I agree with your sentiment, but you have to admit that Dirrell's reaction to the cheap shot looked shady as ****. It didn't look like a particularly big shot at the time, more of a cuff than anything, but my opinion back then was to give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, who knows? A punch to the head is a punch to the head. Looking at it in retrospect however, considering his su****ious 'brain injury' that conveniently healed just after the Super Six final and his stuttering, stumbling mess of an explanation about 'Dr Shaw-hi' on Fight Camp 360 (as if any real doctor with any semblance of ethical conduct would recommend returning to a sport in which you take punches to the head on a regular basis following a brain injury), I'm just not convinced by anything he does.

          Not saying Abraham was really touching him, but I'm still convinced Dirrell quit. Probably more out of fear than damage.

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          • Hitman932
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            #15
            Originally posted by P4P Opinion
            I agree with your sentiment, but you have to admit that Dirrell's reaction to the cheap shot looked shady as ****. It didn't look like a particularly big shot at the time, more of a cuff than anything, but my opinion back then was to give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, who knows? A punch to the head is a punch to the head. Looking at it in retrospect however, considering his su****ious 'brain injury' that conveniently healed just after the Super Six final and his stuttering, stumbling mess of an explanation about 'Dr Shaw-hi' on Fight Camp 360 (as if any real doctor with any semblance of ethical conduct would recommend returning to a sport in which you take punches to the head on a regular basis following a brain injury), I'm just not convinced by anything he does.

            Not saying Abraham was really touching him, but I'm still convinced Dirrell quit. Probably more out of fear than damage.
            I obviously am used to people questioning his immediate reaction to the punch and all I can say on the subject is this..

            1) Regardless of whether it was exaggerated or not the fight should have ended in a DQ because at the very least it did enough damage to impair his ability to fight at the level he as before it happened.

            2) Dirrell wouldn't be the first, or last, to have a delayed reaction to a punch.

            3) He is a boxer and his only means for income. "Faking" a brain injury has cost him millions of dollars and attached a stigma to him that HBO and Showtime are hesitant to deal with. To say he did it all to avoid a Ward fight and because he was scared that Abraham might actually land a punch at some point seems more far fetched to me than the alternative.

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            • Bigg Rigg
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              #16
              Originally posted by MikeRo1972
              Dirrell backed out of his last 2 fights. Both ESPN cards. That tells me: 1) None of the premium cable networks want him. And 2). By backing out of 2 ESPN cards he effectively has turned his promising career into nothing but off tv fights because nobody is going to offer him any money to fight on tv anymore. Basically 50 cent is going to have to bundle him into a Gamboa or Dib undercard. That, or ask DiBella to throw him a bone at one of his Roseland Ballroom or Connecticut casino cards.
              After that Abraham fight, u can't blame them. He was winning but the momentum was shifting and he looked very uncomfortable. Then came the late hit and he took the easy way out. It was so obvious that he was faking it just to get out of the fight. Ppl dont wanna see that. He dropped the ball big time with that move.

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              • Prince Mongo
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                #17
                The Super 6 came a little too early for him and dropped him in the deep end. Although super talented mentally he was not ready. He is the type of fighter that needed bringing along more carefully. It is all too late for that approach now. It is hard to see what is next for him. He may well end up never fulfilling his potential.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  I obviously am used to people questioning his immediate reaction to the punch and all I can say on the subject is this..

                  1) Regardless of whether it was exaggerated or not the fight should have ended in a DQ because at the very least it did enough damage to impair his ability to fight at the level he as before it happened.

                  2) Dirrell wouldn't be the first, or last, to have a delayed reaction to a punch.

                  3) He is a boxer and his only means for income. "Faking" a brain injury has cost him millions of dollars and attached a stigma to him that HBO and Showtime are hesitant to deal with. To say he did it all to avoid a Ward fight and because he was scared that Abraham might actually land a punch at some point seems more far fetched to me than the alternative.
                  1. Completely agree. Abraham deserved to be disqualified regardless of how much damage the shot did. Dirrell was clearly on the canvas and Abraham had time to compute that. Not sure about it impairing his ability to fight at the level he had been fighting at before it happened though. I think fear was stunting his performance after Abraham knocked him down. I don't think Dirrell was badly hurt, but I think he was shook up mentally.

                  2. Very true, but doesn't it seem more likely that it was one of the harder shots Abraham landed rather than the cuffed shot that hit him when he was down? We'll never know, I'm speculating based on what is likely.

                  3. IF and I mean IF, Dirrell has faked or exaggerated his 'brain injury', I really doubt they expected it to have this negative an impact on his career. As I said before, no doctor worth a damn would ever advise a fighter who had suffered a brain injury to go back to a sport like boxing, yet we're supposed to believe that a doctor advised him to come back almost exactly as the Super Six ended. Ask yourself why there is a stigma attached to him - the answer is that HBO and Showtime suspect what I'm suggesting COULD be the truth about him. No reason for them to stigmatize him otherwise. Dirrell is young, good-looking, talented, a good talker and American, so why would major Boxing networks not want much to do with him? It sure as **** isn't because he was out of the game for a while, because plenty of fighters have been out for longer. The stigma (if it exists on the level you think it does) is there because they suspect something isn't right as much as fans like me do.

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                  • Chris Collins
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                    #19
                    Dirrell's finished, maybe he should be a marathon runner he'd be good at that I reckon.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Hitman932
                      It really cracks me up that people think Dirrell quit or faked it in the Abraham fight.
                      Of course he faked it, and shamefully so.

                      What's happening to Dirrell's career is karma. Tried to cheat Froch, successfully cheated Abraham, ducked Ward and is now reaping the rewards of his behaviour.

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