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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #11
    Originally posted by EzzardCharles
    ray was 5'11, just like roy.....
    ray fought at middle in a time when same day weigh in's was the thing. roy is a natural supermiddle/light heavy.

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    • Ezzard Charles
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      #12
      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
      RJJ would win, but get booed the whole time.

      And I'm not even confident in my pick. SRR could wear his body out, and finish him off. You can't count out the GOAT.
      roy couldn't handle montell griffins jab.... you think he could live with ray robinsons lead hook or jab.....

      forgetaboutit

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #13
        Originally posted by AntonTheMeh
        toney doesn't exist?
        they fought at 168, and to be honest it was fat, crazy, non-training toney when they fought...
        That was it for roy, he only fights tough guys to get a belt
        Beat hopkins for toney's vacant belt but never defended against someone legit
        Beat Toney for his biggest win and never fought the other top guys when champ
        Beat bums to get his Light heavy belt (40 year mcCallum) Lou Del valle, but he did clean out the 175 division except for Michalewski but i dont blame roy for that
        Beat Ruiz at heavy but never defended
        Barely beat tarver, then got ko'd by tarver and Johnson, then took the fights everyone wanted to see in the past like hopkins 2, Calzaghe, tito

        Roy only headlined like 2 PPV in his prime and they were a decade apart, in between toney and ruiz he fought BS competition

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        • Ezzard Charles
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          #14
          Originally posted by AntonTheMeh
          ray fought at middle in a time when same day weigh in's was the thing. roy is a natural supermiddle/light heavy.
          ok....

          you meant weight.... but in this scenario, i guess we're assuming all things are equal.....

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          • Sugar Adam Ali
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            #15
            Originally posted by EzzardCharles
            roy couldn't handle montell griffins jab.... you think he could live with ray robinsons lead hook or jab.....

            forgetaboutit
            I agree, that pretty much sums it up..

            There was a reason roy never fought frankie tate and most of the posters have no idea who he is

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            • BUNGALOWS
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              #16
              Originally posted by EzzardCharles
              roy couldn't handle montell griffins jab.... you think he could live with ray robinsons lead hook or jab.....

              forgetaboutit
              I still think H2H Roy could beat any MW in the history of boxing, just by being athletic. I could see SRR giving him major problems, and sapping his energy by round 6-7.

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              • Ezzard Charles
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                #17
                only fighter that beats ray robinson at 160..... ezzard charles.

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                • Ezzard Charles
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
                  I still think H2H Roy could beat any MW in the history of boxing, just by being athletic. I could see SRR giving him major problems, and sapping his energy by round 6-7.
                  lol.... yeah by running.....

                  look.... i know roy's camp said.... he had one hand against bernard in their first fight.... but roy still looked bad.... and although the scores were favorable to roy, it was a close fight....

                  bernard did something.... something old school.... he doubled up his jab and closed the distance on roy....

                  now bernard isn't as fast as guys like ray rob....

                  montell griffin backed roy up to the ropes using his jab.....

                  u think ray robinson would have done the same?

                  plus rays left hook.... go to the body.... go to the body.... feint to the body.... go to the head.....

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #19
                    Roy Jones would win at 160 pounds in my opinion. Robinson may have been the best welterweight of all time but not the best middleweight of all time. He lost middleweight fights to guys that were not as good as Roy Jones. A prime Robinson lost his middleweight title to Randy Turpin. He came from behind to KO Turpin in the 10th round of a rematch but I don't think Turpin would ever beat Jones. A 32 year old Robinson lost a fight by a wide margin to Ralph Jones who was not a top ten rated middleweight. He never fought Ralph Jones again. Robinson also lost his middleweight title to welterweight champion Carmen Basilio. No welterweight could ever beat Roy Jones in my opinion.

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                    • bravestone
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                      #20
                      Robinson kept his hands too low against fighters. Cmon.at 160? Joness schools him

                      The trickiest fighter Robinson fought at 160 may have been Turpin.

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