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  • #61
    Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
    Again:

    Canelo 166.5 30 days out vs Trout. Canelo refuses fight night weighin > Poof no excuse
    Bradley 10lb fight night gain in 1 fight
    Lamont Peterson 8lb gain in 1 fight
    Donaire 126 vs Montiel, 135+ vs Rigo

    And you want me to take 2011 numbers as Bible? I mean, 150 on the dot? Guys gain weight as they age. JMM is 150 fight night. Are you really telling me these 2 guys have the same weight ceiling? Only if one chooses to set his ceiling lower.
    Canelo being 166.5 does not equal being 1 pound above your weight division, 166.5 is still a staggering 12.5 pounds over his division. Which highlights my point about being 30 days out from weigh in and being 1 pound over your weight division if you are naturally 155. To be that dehydrated 30 days out would be so unnecessary when you have a month to lose 7 pounds, why would you do it 30 days out... wait until weigh in and then put it back on again? Why would you weigh 148 for the whole month? When you could just leave it and cut the weight gradually? It doesn't add up. You're taking things out of context and pretending it is evidence when it is just not. Again, you are being intellectually dishonest with yourself and if you dislike Mayweather that much then that's just really sad.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by craigus1990 View Post
      Canelo being 166.5 does not equal being 1 pound above your weight division, 166.5 is still a staggering 12.5 pounds over his division. Which highlights my point about being 30 days out from weigh in and being 1 pound over your weight division if you are naturally 155. To be that dehydrated 30 days out would be so unnecessary when you have a month to lose 7 pounds, why would you do it 30 days out... wait until weigh in and then put it back on again? Why would you weigh 148 for the whole month? When you could just leave it and cut the weight gradually? It doesn't add up. You're taking things out of context and pretending it is evidence when it is just not. Again, you are being intellectually dishonest with yourself and if you dislike Mayweather that much then that's just really sad.
      I don't care, fight night weight is not measured 30 days out, it's on fight night and Floyd keeps dodging that scale. I know about Ortiz, but 1 out of 5 is a pattern of avoidance, especially since most guys will do it every time without thinking. every guy on his undercard did

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      • #63
        Originally posted by craigus1990 View Post
        Canelo being 166.5 does not equal being 1 pound above your weight division, 166.5 is still a staggering 12.5 pounds over his division. Which highlights my point about being 30 days out from weigh in and being 1 pound over your weight division if you are naturally 155. To be that dehydrated 30 days out would be so unnecessary when you have a month to lose 7 pounds, why would you do it 30 days out... wait until weigh in and then put it back on again? Why would you weigh 148 for the whole month? When you could just leave it and cut the weight gradually? It doesn't add up. You're taking things out of context and pretending it is evidence when it is just not. Again, you are being intellectually dishonest with yourself and if you dislike Mayweather that much then that's just really sad.
        He's just trolling at this point as if he's making people mad when he's only making a fool of himself. He's a hater who's simply projecting by being deliberately obtuse.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          I don't care, fight night weight is not measured 30 days out, it's on fight night and Floyd keeps dodging that scale. I know about Ortiz, but 1 out of 5 is a pattern of avoidance, especially since most guys will do it every time without thinking. every guy on his undercard did
          And there we go. You saying "I don't care" shows that you are ignoring evidence. Whether or not it is the same night, it gives us an indication as to which fighters are cutting weight/need to cut weight and which guys don't need to cut weight. Floyd is a guy who doesn't need to cut weight which is displayed by his 30 day weigh in. Your attitude of "I don't care" and ignoring that fact and then saying "because he doesn't always weigh in fight night I will assume he is 155 plus" is dishonest and a logical fallacy. If you ask me what his fight night weight is for the Guerrero fight I would give you an honest answer and say I don't know but we can look at his 30 day weigh in, 7 day weigh in and weights in previous fights to point us in the right direction. Whereas you would say because he doesn't weigh in he is hiding something and must be 155 plus despite no evidence to suggest it. You see the difference? My position is honest and yours is dishonest.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
            he doesnt need size advanage and to baloon up like these facefirst tards :bott;e:
            Unlike the man-child in your avy.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by craigus1990 View Post
              And there we go. You saying "I don't care" shows that you are ignoring evidence. Whether or not it is the same night, it gives us an indication as to which fighters are cutting weight/need to cut weight and which guys don't need to cut weight. Floyd is a guy who doesn't need to cut weight which is displayed by his 30 day weigh in. Your attitude of "I don't care" and ignoring that fact and then saying "because he doesn't always weigh in fight night I will assume he is 155 plus" is dishonest and a logical fallacy. If you ask me what his fight night weight is for the Guerrero fight I would give you an honest answer and say I don't know but we can look at his 30 day weigh in, 7 day weigh in and weights in previous fights to point us in the right direction. Whereas you would say because he doesn't weigh in he is hiding something and must be 155 plus despite no evidence to suggest it. You see the difference? My position is honest and yours is dishonest.
              i accept admissible evidence: the fight night scale reading. this is not rocket science man, i don't need a weight extrapolating course cause the guy refuses to step on the fight night scale. Why are you working so hard on this anyway, who are you trying to convince, me or yourself? Or just holding down the fort?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                i accept admissible evidence: the fight night scale reading. this is not rocket science man, i don't need a weight extrapolating course cause the guy refuses to step on the fight night scale. Why are you working so hard on this anyway, who are you trying to convince, me or yourself? Or just holding down the fort?
                Looking at evidence and coming to a conclusion is not hard work, I am not trying to convince anybody... you have made your position clear that you don't care about the presented facts and will run with your idea regardless, I am merely rebutting the replies from you and pointing out your logical fallacies. Your evidence is mere speculation and nonsensical rubbish whilst ignoring everything valid. You are not the judge of what is admissible evidence, the evidence is there and in bucket loads which answer your thread and if you choose to ignore that evidence, is doesn't discredit the evidence, it just discredits your predictive capabilities and honesty.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by craigus1990 View Post
                  Looking at evidence and coming to a conclusion is not hard work, I am not trying to convince anybody... you have made your position clear that you don't care about the presented facts and will run with your idea regardless, I am merely rebutting the replies from you and pointing out your logical fallacies. Your evidence is mere speculation and nonsensical rubbish whilst ignoring everything valid. You are not the judge of what is admissible evidence, the evidence is there and in bucket loads which answer your thread and if you choose to ignore that evidence, is doesn't discredit the evidence, it just discredits your predictive capabilities and honesty.
                  It shouldn't be hard work, all it takes is for the fighter to step on the scale and let the network display it. Nothing more, nothing less. What you're doing is guesswork, which is fine, whatever makes you sleep easier. It just looks so bad with the CW transgression, you know, and all the baggage that comes with. I mean, if there isn't enough dishonesty in that sordid episode...

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                  • #69
                    To put things in Perspective Danny Garcia and Zab Judah who are Jr. Welterweights weighed more than Floyd for their 30 day weight checks for their last fight in comparison to Floyds 30 day weight of 148lb. That should tell you he's a pretty small welter, in comparison to someone like Berto, or Thurman. And Zab is a small dude by the way.
                    Last edited by hhwff3000; 06-02-2013, 08:52 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by hhwff3000 View Post
                      To put things in Perspective Danny Garcia and Zab Judah who are Jr. Welterweights weighed more than Floyd for there 30 day weigh checks for their last fight in comparison to Floyds 30 day weight of 148lb. That should tell you he's a pretty small welter, in comparison to someone like Berto, or Thurman. And Zab is a small dude by the way.
                      JMM is yet smaller, and he is 150 fight night, which makes not a small welter, but tiny.

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