Why is it that Floyd refuses to be weighed on fight night?

[craigus1990]

The evidence = the observable, demonstrable things not the things you decide to be true without evidence. The burden of proof here is on you because you are making a claim that is contrary to the demonstrable evidence. We can look at all the times he has weighed in. The most being 152. We can look at 30 day weigh ins, 7 day weigh ins. I can't remember the exact numbers for the 30 day weigh ins but it was around 148 - 149. 7 day weigh in was again around 148. These things are demonstrable, I am not just pulling numbers out of thin air. You're making a logical fallacy by saying because we don't have the numbers for some of his fights, we can just say the weight was 154 plus. To do this is intellectually dishonest. I care about what is real, what is fact, what is measurable. I don't care about things that you think might be true without proof or evidence. Again, if he was 154 plus on fight nights why would he want to weigh in at 152 for his next fight when he would be much more comfortable at 154? Why was he 150 against Ortiz when this was just 2 years ago? Why would he fight at 150 in 2011 and still be at the same weight class today yet decide to bulk up by half a stone or more? Your arguments are nonsensical and silly.

[Goldie]

1 weighin in the past 6 years is not evidence, it's lack of evidence. It's the kind of thing you expect from serial weight abusers.

Him making himself look small is no fantasy, his camp manager claimed he was 147 fight night vs Cotto which just makes them lose all credibility on this.

There's A lot more evidence that Mayweather doesnt come in the ring at 54 or more than that 1 weigh-in. The fact that he was only 48 and change at the 30 day weigh in for Geurrero is evidence that he wasn't 54+ when he went into ring. The well known fact that Floyd stays in shape and doesn't have to cut weight to make the limit is evidence that he doesn't gain 7+ pounds between the weigh-in and the fight. The fact that he has never weight in at 54 or above is evidence that he doesn't get that big when he's in fight shape. You want to ignore all the evidence to hang on to some conspiracy theory.

[HeroBando]

The evidence = the observable, demonstrable things not the things you decide to be true without evidence. The burden of proof here is on you because you are making a claim that is contrary to the demonstrable evidence. We can look at all the times he has weighed in. The most being 152. We can look at 30 day weigh ins, 7 day weigh ins. I can't remember the exact numbers for the 30 day weigh ins but it was around 148 - 149. 7 day weigh in was again around 148. These things are demonstrable, I am not just pulling numbers out of thin air. You're making a logical fallacy by saying because we don't have the numbers for some of his fights, we can just say the weight was 154 plus. To do this is intellectually dishonest. I care about what is real, what is fact, what is measurable. I don't care about things that you think might be true without proof or evidence. Again, if he was 154 plus on fight nights why would he want to weigh in at 152 for his next fight when he would be much more comfortable at 154? Why was he 150 against Ortiz when this was just 2 years ago? Why would he fight at 150 in 2011 and still be at the same weight class today yet decide to bulk up by half a stone or more? Your arguments are nonsensical and silly.

I'm not making any claim, I don't know his fight night weight for Cotto, JMM, Mosley, Guerrero. I'd guess he's hit 155 at some point, but it doesn't matter. Basically, if you're gonna be using weight as an excuse (see lineal belt at 152lbs), you need to step on the scale. It's not hard. you like measurable? Talk to the scale.

[HeroBando]

There's A lot more evidence that Mayweather doesnt come in the ring at 54 or more than that 1 weigh-in. The fact that he was only 48 and change at the 30 day weigh in for Geurrero is evidence that he wasn't 54+ when he went into ring. The well known fact that Floyd stays in shape and doesn't have to cut weight to make the limit is evidence that he doesn't gain 7+ pounds between the weigh-in and the fight. The fact that he has never weight in at 54 or above is evidence that he doesn't get that big when he's in fight shape. You want to ignore all the evidence to hang on to some conspiracy theory.

Marquez and Nacho tell us he was a MW fight night. He's not one to make excuses, is he?

J/K, he is, but I doubt he'd be saying 20lbs if it was really 5lbs. sure didn't look 4 or less, looked like a man against boy. And lets not forget a guy that's 150 fight night makes 144 in his sleep, hell probably makes 140 no problem

[hugh grant]

People couldnt help notice Floyd looked bigger than cotto fight night.
But Floyd is probably 160+ fight night in hydration as he knows he is going to do a lot of running in the ring and needs to be hydrated marathon runner style.

So secretive is FLoyd about everything, not just fight night weight.

[thuggery]

HeroBando is destroying the fanboys in this thread. Why is it that no one can properly debate him?

[Goldie]

Marquez and Nacho tell us he was a MW fight night. He's not one to make excuses, is he?

J/K, he is, but I doubt he'd be saying 20lbs if it was really 5lbs. sure didn't look 4 or less, looked like a man against boy. And lets not forget a guy that's 150 fight night makes 144 in his sleep, hell probably makes 140 no problem

I have facts as evidence to back up my position, all you have is he say-she say talk and your own bias guesstimations. Floyd looked the same size as he always does against Marquez. So if he was 150 in the ring agains Ortiz then I think that it's safe to assume that that's what he was in the ring with Marquez, Mosley, Guerrero, ect. He has looked to be the same size in all of those fights.

[craigus1990]

I'm not making any claim, I don't know his fight night weight for Cotto, JMM, Mosley, Guerrero. I'd guess he's hit 155 at some point, but it doesn't matter. Basically, if you're gonna be using weight as an excuse (see lineal belt at 152lbs), you need to step on the scale. It's not hard. you like measurable? Talk to the scale.

You guessing 155 or more and making threads about Floyds weight is making a claim. Yes I like measurable, demonstrable evidence. And again you have chosen to ignore all of the evidence. He did get on the scale in 2011. 2 Years later he is at the same weight class, why would he decide to stay at the same weight class yet bulk up 5 pounds or more? Again, you ignore his 30 day weigh in weight and have no answers to any of my questions and then continue to spout rubbish. A fighter weighing in 1 pound over his fight night weight 30 days out would not weigh 155 or more on fight night. There would be no point dehydrating yourself to your fight night weight 30 days out from the fight. If you are choosing to ignore everything that people say and be intellectually dishonest with yourself then that is your call.

[HeroBando]

HeroBando is destroying the fanboys in this thread. Why is it that no one can properly debate him?

Cause I'm bringing righteous anger, and they're so prone and exposed right now. Basically kicking them when they're down, not a nice thing. We'll make friends later, there's many CWs ahead. That way they can keep billing it as Floyd Canelo: Battle of the Undefeateds till the contract runs out

[HeroBando]

You guessing 155 or more and making threads about Floyds weight is making a claim. Yes I like measurable, demonstrable evidence. And again you have chosen to ignore all of the evidence. He did get on the scale in 2011. 2 Years later he is at the same weight class, why would he decide to stay at the same weight class yet bulk up 5 pounds or more? Again, you ignore his 30 day weigh in weight and have no answers to any of my questions and then continue to spout rubbish. A fighter weighing in 1 pound over his fight night weight 30 days out would not weigh 155 or more on fight night. There would be no point dehydrating yourself to your fight night weight 30 days out from the fight. If you are choosing to ignore everything that people say and be intellectually dishonest with yourself then that is your call.

Again:

Canelo 166.5 30 days out vs Trout. Canelo refuses fight night weighin > Poof no excuse
Bradley 10lb fight night gain in 1 fight
Lamont Peterson 8lb gain in 1 fight
Donaire 126 vs Montiel, 135+ vs Rigo

And you want me to take 2011 numbers as Bible? I mean, 150 on the dot? Guys gain weight as they age. JMM is 150 fight night. Are you really telling me these 2 guys have the same weight ceiling? Only if one chooses to set his ceiling lower.