I ♥ Catchweights

[Adonis Tha God]

STFU with your crying, this is the fight you wanted

[leonthegee]

The difference between this fight and say Cotto at 145 is Canelos saying the weight isnt a problem. Scheafer and Canelo probably already had 152 as a number they would be whilling to except if worse came to worse. That wasnt the case with Cotto. Cotto went kicking and screaming. He didnt want the fight at 145. He threatened to surrender his title and I remember the WBO getting involved. Not the same thing here.

[Em1]

lmao. love this thread.

[jaestix1]

The difference between this fight and say Cotto at 145 is Canelos saying the weight isnt a problem. Scheafer and Canelo probably already had 152 as a number they would be whilling to except if worse came to worse. That wasnt the case with Cotto. Cotto went kicking and screaming. He didnt want the fight at 145. He threatened to surrender his title and I remember the WBO getting involved. Not the same thing here.

canelo also isn't coming off two brutal beatdowns like cotto but i digress.......still a b!tch move by floyd though.

[Vasyl’s dad]

The difference between this fight and say Cotto at 145 is Canelos saying the weight isnt a problem. Scheafer and Canelo probably already had 152 as a number they would be whilling to except if worse came to worse. That wasnt the case with Cotto. Cotto went kicking and screaming. He didnt want the fight at 145. He threatened to surrender his title and I remember the WBO getting involved. Not the same thing here.

The Puerto Rican, 34-1 (27 KOs), is the underdog for Saturday's scheduled 12-round bout but believes his power will prevail over Pacquiao's renowned hand speed.
"I'm prepared for the speed of Manny," Cotto said. "My hand speed is pretty equal to Manny's. But can Manny's power equal Miguel Cotto's on Saturday night? I am very calm. I have been doing this for many years."
A former WBO light-welterweight and WBA welterweight champion, Cotto said he had been energised by the success of his Florida training camp under new head trainer, Joe Santiago.
"The training camp we had, that's going to make the difference," he added.
Cotto was previously trained by his uncle, Evangelista, but the two fell out after a heated argument, paving the way for the 31-year-old Santiago to take over.
Although Pacquiao's outspoken trainer Freddie Roach has cast doubt on Santiago's experience, Cotto feels the change has been a very positive one.
"When you have good communication with all the members of your team, an integrated team, and they put their efforts together to really make Miguel Cotto the best Miguel Cotto he can be, it makes a very comfortable training camp," he said.
Pacquiao, (49-3-2, 37 KOs), was mobbed by more than 1,000 cheering fans on his arrival at the MGM Grand on Tuesday and is certain to attract most of the support at the 16,000-seat arena on Saturday.
Cotto, however, was unconcerned.
"On fight night it is going to be just Manny, Miguel Cotto and the referee inside the ring," said the Puerto Rican, who retained his WBO title with a split decision win over Ghana's Joshua Clottey in June.
"Nobody can come and give anything to Manny."
Cotto was also unfazed by suggestions he was being underestimated by the Pacquiao camp, which has been touting the possibility of a lucrative bout with undefeated American welterweight Floyd Mayweather Jr early next year.
"I'm focused on this fight," he said. "When I beat him this Saturday, he can think about whatever opponents he wants."

[Outwest Exp 355]

canelo also isn't coming off two brutal beatdowns like cotto but i digress.......still a b!tch move by floyd though.

Some one had to give. 154 isnt Floyds natural weight class even though hes fought there twice. Thats probably why hes looked beatable in both fights. We need to know more about the night of the fight stipulations. Manny weighing 148 while Oscar weighing 147 the night of the fight is not necessarily the same thing. Canelo is 22 and can recover after the weigh in. Although Floyds probably going to take some bad ink by the press for the catch weight.

[Godsfly]

The difference between this fight and say Cotto at 145 is Canelos saying the weight isnt a problem. Scheafer and Canelo probably already had 152 as a number they would be whilling to except if worse came to worse. That wasnt the case with Cotto. Cotto went kicking and screaming. He didnt want the fight at 145. He threatened to surrender his title and I remember the WBO getting involved. Not the same thing here.

well canelo is also very young and has little to no wear on his body............cotto had been through his wars.


i don't think it's comparable.........

[chiguy91]

floyd's the best fighter of our generation. he shouldn't be using catchweights against a fighter like alvarez, especially after talking all that smack about pacquiao using them. i'm sure mayweather could beat this kid's ass even if he came at 160, but it just makes things look bad having this be at 152. it gives alvarez and his fans a built in excuse after the fight.

[leonthegee]

The Puerto Rican, 34-1 (27 KOs), is the underdog for Saturday's scheduled 12-round bout but believes his power will prevail over Pacquiao's renowned hand speed.
"I'm prepared for the speed of Manny," Cotto said. "My hand speed is pretty equal to Manny's. But can Manny's power equal Miguel Cotto's on Saturday night? I am very calm. I have been doing this for many years."
A former WBO light-welterweight and WBA welterweight champion, Cotto said he had been energised by the success of his Florida training camp under new head trainer, Joe Santiago.
"The training camp we had, that's going to make the difference," he added.
Cotto was previously trained by his uncle, Evangelista, but the two fell out after a heated argument, paving the way for the 31-year-old Santiago to take over.
Although Pacquiao's outspoken trainer Freddie Roach has cast doubt on Santiago's experience, Cotto feels the change has been a very positive one.
"When you have good communication with all the members of your team, an integrated team, and they put their efforts together to really make Miguel Cotto the best Miguel Cotto he can be, it makes a very comfortable training camp," he said.
Pacquiao, (49-3-2, 37 KOs), was mobbed by more than 1,000 cheering fans on his arrival at the MGM Grand on Tuesday and is certain to attract most of the support at the 16,000-seat arena on Saturday.
Cotto, however, was unconcerned.
"On fight night it is going to be just Manny, Miguel Cotto and the referee inside the ring," said the Puerto Rican, who retained his WBO title with a split decision win over Ghana's Joshua Clottey in June.
"Nobody can come and give anything to Manny."
Cotto was also unfazed by suggestions he was being underestimated by the Pacquiao camp, which has been touting the possibility of a lucrative bout with undefeated American welterweight Floyd Mayweather Jr early next year.
"I'm focused on this fight," he said. "When I beat him this Saturday, he can think about whatever opponents he wants."

Im talking about pre training camp. The WBO forced Cotto to put his title up and Manny offered to pay Cottos sanctioning fees. But he still accepted the fight so it is what it is. Now I think Cottos trainer had the wrong game plan and thats what cost him the fight more than the catch weight. Cottos always faded late in fights. He did it at 140, 147, and 154.

[Slip Stream]

Some one had to give. 154 isnt Floyds natural weight class even though hes fought there twice. Thats probably why hes looked beatable in both fights. We need to know more about the night of the fight stipulations. Manny weighing 148 while Oscar weighing 147 the night of the fight is not necessarily the same thing. Canelo is 22 and can recover after the weigh in. Although Floyds probably going to take some bad ink by the press for the catch weight.

Floyd's going to "take some bad ink" no matter what he does, except when he signs his paychecks.....