What Options Does Froch Have???????

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  • Wenger Is God
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    #21
    Originally posted by comanick
    LOL. How about you try giving me some legitimate reasons for those fights to happen. You talk about a "point" but you have yet to make one.
    Hopkins is an option for Froch, not for Ward. Hopkins has stated on several occassions he wants to fight Froch. Froch said he would do it. Hopkins doesn't want to fight Ward

    There's every reason for the Kessler trilogy to happen if Kessler wants it. Two close fights.

    Groves and Cleverley, possibly even DeGale are big fights in the UK.

    What exactly is unclear to you? These are all options for Froch but not for Ward.

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    • comanick
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      #22
      Originally posted by Wenger Is God
      Hopkins is an option for Froch, not for Ward. Hopkins has stated on several occassions he wants to fight Froch. Froch said he would do it. Hopkins doesn't want to fight Ward

      There's every reason for the Kessler trilogy to happen if Kessler wants it. Two close fights.

      Groves and Cleverley, possibly even DeGale are big fights in the UK.

      What exactly is unclear to you? These are all options for Froch but not for Ward.
      How are they not options for ward. He is the supermiddleweight champ, correct. You have listed supermiddles . He is the number 1 rated fighter in the divison, every fighter at that weight is technically an option.

      So you mean to tell me that hopkins, groves, cleverly, kessler and degale are all going to duck the #1 fighter in the division and your ok with that. LOL. i guess the sport is no longer about trying to be #1.

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      • Cobra_
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        #23
        Pffffffffffffffffttt these UK match ups ****ing suck. Degale? HAHAHAHAHAH laughable. Groves? Ehhh the guy is no where near ready for a fighter the class of Froch and Cleverly is the biggest fraud of champion I have seen in quite some time.

        Martin Murray Vs Carl Froch (Murray moves up to SMW) is a money fight in the UK. It could be very close too. I can even see Murray sneaking the W if Froch fought bad and Murray performed like he did against Martinez.
        Last edited by Cobra_; 05-28-2013, 11:22 AM.

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        • comanick
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          #24
          Originally posted by Cobra_
          Pffffffffffffffffttt these UK match ups ****ing suck. Degale? HAHAHAHAHAH laughable. Groves? Ehhh the guy is no where near ready for a fighter the class of Froch and Cleverly is the biggest fraud of champion I have seen in quite some time.

          Martin Murray Vs Carl Froch is a money fight in the UK. It could be very close too. I can even see Murray sneaking the W if Froch fought bad and Murray performed like he did against Martinez.
          Thank you.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Wenger Is God
            Kessler 3
            Hopkins
            Groves
            Cleverley

            All huge fights in the UK
            ^^^^this
            Steiglitz has a title too, not sure if a 3rd Abraham fight will happen
            if not, or if it does and Steiglitz wins, Froch can fight him
            he can still beat up on Bute again if Bute wants it too

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              #26
              Originally posted by comanick
              How are they not options for ward. He is the supermiddleweight champ, correct. You have listed supermiddles . He is the number 1 rated fighter in the divison, every fighter at that weight is technically an option.

              So you mean to tell me that hopkins, groves, cleverly, kessler and degale are all going to duck the #1 fighter in the division and your ok with that. LOL. i guess the sport is no longer about trying to be #1.
              Hopkins has admitted he will duck Ward.

              As for the rest, they are not options for Ward in the same way. A Ward-Groves fight, for example, will generate no interest whereas they could make Froch-Groves a huge fight in the UK.

              How do you not understand that?

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              • comanick
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                #27
                Originally posted by Wenger Is God
                Hopkins has admitted he will duck Ward.

                As for the rest, they are not options for Ward in the same way. A Ward-Groves fight, for example, will generate no interest whereas they could make Froch-Groves a huge fight in the UK.

                How do you not understand that?
                So now there are not options in "the same way" but a few posts ago they werent options at all.

                I think you misunderstand. There is no name you mentioned that will bring froch more money and notoriety than ward and that is the point. They both make the most fighting each other and thats that.

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                • Ryn0
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by comanick
                  Kessler - not happening next.
                  Hopkins - not happening
                  Pascal - not happening
                  Golovkin - not happening
                  Stieglitz - not a big fight
                  Groves and Degale- Decent money in UK but neither are ready
                  Bika-Periban - means nothing
                  murray - means nothing.
                  You give really good through explanations. It's almost as if you are in the fighters camp yourself!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by comanick
                    So now there are not options in "the same way" but a few posts ago they werent options at all.

                    I think you misunderstand. There is no name you mentioned that will bring froch more money and notoriety than ward and that is the point. They both make the most fighting each other and thats that.
                    Read between the lines pal. I don't expect to have to definitively explain everything. Everything is an option but why would Ward fight a lesser money fight for no reason? Therefore, in essence, it's not an option.

                    There are fights that would be just as big if not bigger for Froch - Hopkins for example. Froch just fought Kessler and got paid a lot more than he did fighting Ward. He could fight Kessler again and get more than fighting Ward. There's PPV in the UK and Denmark of which Froch would get a cut. Ward is on regular HBO

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                    • comanick
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Wenger Is God
                      Read between the lines pal. I don't expect to have to definitively explain everything. Everything is an option but why would Ward fight a lesser money fight for no reason? Therefore, in essence, it's not an option.

                      There are fights that would be just as big if not bigger for Froch - Hopkins for example. Froch just fought Kessler and got paid a lot more than he did fighting Ward. He could fight Kessler again and get more than fighting Ward. There's PPV in the UK and Denmark of which Froch would get a cut. Ward is on regular HBO
                      (In Bold) For the same reason carl will. They both make the most fighting each other so why would carl want to fight a lesser money fight for no reason.

                      So who is carl going to fight next. You think hes fighting hopkins. Yeah right, carl just got off tv saying ward was boring and thats why he doesnt fancy a fight with him but hes going to fight hopkins who at this point is even more boring than ward.

                      Is he going to fight kessler next? I doubt it. We just saw that fight and it was not the kind of a fight that deserves an immediate rematch.

                      But at the end of the day what we are currently talking about does not matter. Ward is the #1, if carl wants to try and be # then the fight will happen if not he can go on being "The King Of Second Place"

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