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  • Originally posted by Calabis View Post
    ....funny how when he was calling out guys he couldn't get fights...
    Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?

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    • Originally posted by Calabis View Post
      Its funny Floyd was ducked by DLH and Mosley using their logic. When in reality Floyd was not a PPV draw back then and far too much of a dangerous fight for either guy.
      Especially if its not making u more than fighting someone else.

      Same guys that say Floyd fights smaller guys and uses weight to his advantage(which is amazing since he's usually the smaller guy) are the same guys defending Canelo for calling out and 140-147lbers...yet he's a true warrior...lmao.

      Then they bring up Paul Williams....jeez every damn guy avoided him....yet now it appears only Floyd has.
      Paul Williams was avoided by everyone, everybody started accusing Floyd of it when he came back and beat who in my opinion was P4P #1 at the time Juan Manuel Marquez at Welterweight. Paul Williams back in 2008 was considered by the HBO announce team as the most avoided man at the lower weights after beating Margarito so people wanted to add another on the list of who they believe Floyd is scared of. What they don't notice is two important elements, Marquez and Margarito were apart of Top Rank. Marquez left Top Rank exclusively to get a fight with Mayweather, he been calling Mayweather out since Pacquiao wanted to duck him after their second fight of which many believe Marquez won. Marquez after beating Juan Diaz stated" I am now P4P #1 and if anyone don't think so, I will fight Mayweather the true P4P since Pacquiao don't want to fight me". He then went on a frivolous campaign to do so and Mayweather hearing all the talks of Pacquiao being P4P #1 after he beat his leftovers came out of retirement to beat his rival, who left Top Rank stable to fight Mayweather. Marquez knew to fight Mayweather he was going to have to sign with Goldenboy because Mayweather and Arum do not do business. Canelo Alvarez is a true bum, he didn't even knock out Josesito Lopez, the ref stopped the bout too early like most of his recent TKO wins, where the ref seems to know Canelo is gassing out and went into a desperate attack to end the fight... I honestly believe if he fights Mayweather once he gasses Mayweather will K.O him and people will go into outrage. With that said Mayweather needs to fight Canelo to kill the hype..

      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      If you fought most of your previous fights at 130 or 135 or 140 and then fight a guy who has been at 147 or more since 2005, then the advantage usually goes to the guy with more experience at 147.

      You can come in at higher than Floyd on fight night but that doesn't mean that they have the years of ring experience against 147 or 154 fighters.

      EXAMPLE: Floyd fought at 154 then his next opponent is someone who a year ago hadn't fought at 140 nor 147 and only beat 1 or 2 average fighters at 147 who have losing records of late at WW. Now add the fact that the reason Floyd doesn't gain much weight because he is a ring rat and comes in great shape. Now does it really matter if the opponent comes in heavier? Does heavier translate to being in better shape than Floyd? Actually, especially for a fighter who recently moved up, it may be a detriment for that fighter since he may become slower, have a lower work-rate and be more lethargic ..... therefore giving the already faster Floyd even MORE of an advantage. The above was Floyd's last fighter, Guerrero.

      Floyd already has most of the advantages .... he just wants to seal the deal by getting fighters who just moved up to the big boys division from 130, 135, 140 .... to 147
      Guerrero weighed more than Mayweather so whatever you saying do not matter, actually it shows that Guerrero was a fraud at those lower weights. Wether you slice or dice it, Guerrero is a good fighter fighting the best fighter in the world. Honestly Guerrero have enough boxing skills to beat Pacquiao easily, unlike Pacquiao as well he faced more southpaws.
      Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
      name the last time Floyd fought a guy coming off a win where the two combatants were fighting to face Floyd next.


      Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
      Dummy... Everyone in the welterweight divisions are fighting to get a fight with Floyd next LOL.

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      • Originally posted by Almondsand View Post
        Guerrero weighed more than Mayweather so whatever you saying do not matter, actually it shows that Guerrero was a fraud at those lower weights. Wether you slice or dice it, Guerrero is a good fighter fighting the best fighter in the world. Honestly Guerrero have enough boxing skills to beat Pacquiao easily, unlike Pacquiao as well he faced more southpaws.
        I guess you misunderstood my point since you brought up that Guerrero's weight but the point was that 1 year ago he hadn't fought at 140 nor 147 yet and was now expected to beat Floyd who has been there since 2005. Almost everyone picked Floyd.

        How can a guy be a fraud then you say he is a good fighter? Which one is it?

        Guerrero had just moved up to WW. He didn't look too good in his first fight and in his second fight, he was getting hit by Berto with big shots often. The only reason he beat Berto is because Berto had no defense and no PEDs and thought he was Floyd in the first few rounds.

        Those 2 guys at WW that Guerrero fought have a recent losing record at WW. The last guy he fought at the lower weights had a losing record of 4 of 5 last fights. Still, he knocked Guerrero down and was able to hit Guerrero often.

        "Who is Guerrero? Who has he fought? I'm no Berto! - Floyd Mayweather

        Floyd said the above. So is Floyd a liar?

        Guerrero beats Manny you say? .... same people were saying that Floyd beat Hatton/Mosley/Oscar but they would kill Manny. Then Manny beats them soon after.

        Styles make fights. Guerrero was too slow and flat-footed. Floyd and his team knew that Floyd can take advantage of that ...... you didn't?
        Last edited by ADP02; 05-26-2013, 03:25 PM.

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        • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
          I'm curious. Who did Floyd call out?
          I don't know if ur being serious or just a hater. There is a video on you tube of him calling out fighters proving it....once u realize he was too dangerous of a fight for many big names...because the money wasn't there, because he was talented as **** but was not a ppv attraction. He called out Mosley way back in 98.....did Mosley duck him? No Mosley went to go fight DLH for 5x the money and if he lost it wouldn't hurt his stock due to jumping up two weight classes. He fights Floyd back then probably makes a million and if he loses there is no DLH fight and he ****s away millions

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          • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
            Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?
            Obviously u never saw Floyd fight at lower weight classes. Because there is no truth to that statement

            U probably think the first time he was rocked was against Mosley....go watch his fight against Chop Chop
            Last edited by Calabis; 05-26-2013, 03:34 PM.

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              I guess you misunderstood my point since you brought up that Guerrero's weight but the point was that 1 year ago he hadn't fought at 140 nor 147 yet and was now expected to beat Floyd who has been there since 2005. Almost everyone picked Floyd.

              How can a guy be a fraud then you say he is a good fighter? Which one is it?

              Guerrero had just moved up to WW. He didn't look too good in his first fight and in his second fight, he was getting hit by Berto with big shots often. The only reason he beat Berto is because Berto had no defense and no PEDs and thought he was Floyd in the first few rounds.

              Those 2 guys at WW that Guerrero fought have a recent losing record at WW. The last guy he fought at the lower weights had a losing record of 4 of 5 last fights. Still, he knocked Guerrero down and was able to hit Guerrero often.

              "Who is Guerrero? Who has he fought? I'm no Berto! - Floyd Mayweather

              Floyd said the above. So is Floyd a liar?

              Guerrero beats Manny you say? .... same people were saying that Floyd beat Hatton/Mosley/Oscar but they would kill Manny. Then Manny beats them soon after.

              Styles make fights. Guerrero was too slow and flat-footed. Floyd and his team knew that Floyd can take advantage of that ...... you didn't?
              His small man stature is fraudulent when we compare him to Floyd Mayweather, he still a great fighter, he's just not really a small man. He always been a welter-light middleweighter at the lightweights, weighing more than Floyd Mayweather in most of his fights before making the jump to the money class.

              Berto was not beating Guerrero, he couldn't handle him, and I don't recall him knocking him down but I do recall Berto getting knocked down twice. Floyd was selling the fight and also letting Guerrero and every know he doesn't need to know who he fighting, the fact is he is Floyd Mayweather the best of the best currently.

              Pacquiao also had catchweight clauses and other bull**** stipulations in those fights. Pacquiao would had fought a 154 pound Oscar would of got clocked, if he would had fought a Cotto that was at his weight he would had got clocked. He drained them both down to 144, one just got beaten by a man with plaster in his gloves.. the other didn't fight since a year ago and lost. He used Mayweather blueprint against Hatton... but Hatton was a one dimensional fighter unlike Guerrero who have more tricks in his game. Pacquiao is a hyped up fighter.. only there to be used by Top Rank..

              Floyd can beat anyone currently, no one have enough skills to beat him flat footed or not, do you not know this? Obviously you don't since I had to educate you on the other things..

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              • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                Who on earth in and around his division would avoid a defensive fighter? (Fighters would rather avoid aggressive fighters.) Just curious, who refused Mayweather when he was calling them out?
                So now ur implying Floyd had/Has no offense? Thats strange since he seems to make mfers stop throwing meaningful punches because they get peppered with straight rights and lead right hooks.

                This site before he fought Mosley.....Mosley going to knock him out...he's to strong for Floyd...blah blah...after fight Mosley is old and washed up...Mosley was a shell of himself. Pac fights Mosley. Pac beats a true warrior and a hof fighter...lmao

                Guerrero is going to come at him and beat him up. This won't be easy for Floyd. After fight who the hell is Guerrero....some cherry picked bum. Pacfans....oh pac's fighting Rios...Pac taking on a young hungry stud.....lol


                I hate Floyds antics but if ur going to keep moving the goalposts everytime ur wrong, then there is no sense in talking about him. No matter who he fights u will find some way to diminesh it. He has beat world champs which according to people on here are washed up scrubs just carrying belts.

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