lucas matthysse busted eye vs Vivian harris.

[jov6388]

see my last post...........it explains it perfectly of why i referred to the Vivian fight.

this is a total break down of matthysse as an elite fighter. i could care less about the results of the vivian fight.

i hear you but sometimes body reacts different .. maybe he thumbed him maybe it was perfect shot ... they are fighting right? it happens i give you fights that great elite boxers struggle a bit in the past .. its part of the game ... they learn from it

[A-Wolf]

nah. you gotta give him more credit then that. i understand that certain stans go overboard but, he's a really talented fighter.

How long have you been following this sport? Be honest.

[A-Wolf]

That's what I'll never understand, the bold. The best puncher Matthysse has been in against is coincidentally gun shy as well, Zab Judah. How do we know he can consistently take big shots from Garcia, who is also undoubtedly the biggest puncher Matthysse would have ever faced?

They don't of course.

[Russian Crushin]

That's what I'll never understand, the bold. The best puncher Matthysse has been in against is coincidentally gun shy as well, Zab Judah. How do we know he can consistently take big shots from Garcia, who is also undoubtedly the biggest puncher Matthysse would have ever faced?

Because many guys have taken his power and survived, Holt, Judah, Morales 1. His isnt going to be landing huge bombs all night on Lucas like people expect, he rarely lands bombs like he did on Morales or Khan KO's

[Russian Crushin]

Anyone else stomach hurt from laughing at the OP?

[Da Machine]

Matthysse blocks punches really well. Watch some of his recent fights. He puts his hand up constantly to block punches. His head movement isn't elite, but almost always gets his hand up. That's what I'm impressed by, his reflexes to get his hands up if they aren't already.

Pac and Marquez have been busted up quite a bit, so I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to prove?

[Dr Rumack]

Anyone else stomach hurt from laughing at the OP?

Predictable from this idiot. Do you not remember his insistence on Matthysse's real weight being 163 against Dallas?

guys....stop this none sense. facts are facts, Matthysse was indeed 163.

it wasn't because of clothes or typos or anything like that. he was just bigger this time around.

and you will never be able to determine matthysse's weight by looking at him. some people have bodies that look the same even when their 20 pounds heavier. & some people have bodies that gain 5 pounds & they look chubby. you can never tell anything based on the "look at him!" test. thats not how human biology works and most people in that field would cry laughing at that argument.

the only facts that we know is that he was indeed 163 for this fight. which is crazy.......the good news is he could EASILY (without any effort) move up to 147 and fight madiana.

[AntonTheMeh]

How long have you been following this sport? Be honest.

long enough.

[Godsfly]

i hear you but sometimes body reacts different .. maybe he thumbed him maybe it was perfect shot ... they are fighting right? it happens i give you fights that great elite boxers struggle a bit in the past .. its part of the game ... they learn form it

dude........understand that i am judging matthysse on the elite level because many guys think that he sparks pac & marquez (& others out) and 3 4 fights after vivian he fought alexander. i thought matthysse looked like the same ole matthysse in the alexander fight....alexander was doing the typical thing that you don't do against a matthysse. moving backwards and throwing grazing shots & slaps.

[jov6388]

Predictable from this idiot. Do you not remember his insistence on Matthysse's real weight being 163 against Dallas?

lol was some funny **** tho