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  • turnedup
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    #51
    Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
    If Pac get's KO'd again then his bottom line will take a dive. So in order for him to overlook that possibility he will need a large enough incentive.

    Arum is only feuding with GBP. He doesn't see Dibella as a threat so he doesn't consider him competition. That's the biggest reason other than advertising rights (Lou doesn't care which beer company logo is painted in the ring and on promotional posters).
    If Arum really cared about that there would've never been a fourth fight with JMM..Arum cares about what product is hot "right now"..has been with every fighter he's ever managed. Pacquaio even knocked out again would still pull in more revenue than 95% of boxers. Honestly the dude no longer even has to fight here..Asia is a much bigger market with a whole lot more cash at hand for entertainment than most of america. Hell Arum wanted a fifth fight even despite the fact his fighter was knocked out against the same opponent. Arum cares about Arum and how much money i'm making off this event.

    Arum on GBP: Has been confirmed by Mayweather's own ppl by the way

    "They came to us with a contract..it told us when the fight would take place, what we'd be paid, what location it would be held at, how many press conferences we had to attend, what size gloves we had to wear, and which toilet we get to use. I don't call that negotiating..I call that dictating."

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    • ThePunchingBag
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      #52
      Originally posted by turnedup
      If Arum really cared about that there would've never been a fourth fight with JMM..Arum cares about what product is hot "right now"..has been with every fighter he's ever managed. Pacquaio even knocked out again would still pull in more revenue than 95% of boxers. Honestly the dude no longer even has to fight here..Asia is a much bigger market with a whole lot more cash at hand for entertainment than most of america. Hell Arum wanted a fifth fight even despite the fact his fighter was knocked out against the same opponent. Arum cares about Arum and how much money i'm making off this event.
      The only reason that fight even happened is because JMM left Golden Boy and signed with Top Rank...

      I still don't know what point you're trying to make.

      Arum only cares about maximizing his money by keeping everything in-house.

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      • The Tase
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        #53
        mathysse v pacquiao = valero v pacquiao

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        • turnedup
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          #54
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          The only reason that fight even happened is because JMM left Golden Boy and signed with Top Rank...

          I still don't know what point you're trying to make.

          Arum only cares about maximizing his money by keeping everything in-house.
          I'll simplify it for you...if you were a manager and your fighter has historically struggled against one specific fighter..would you continue to have them fight if you cared about the fighter losing? I would hope you would say no because that would make you a smart businessman and a compassionate human being..Arum on the other hand says yes and keeps making these fights so clearly he doesn't care about the outcome of the match..just how much revenue it pulled.

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          • ThePunchingBag
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            #55
            Originally posted by turnedup
            I'll simplify it for you...if you were a manager and your fighter has historically struggled against one specific fighter..would you continue to have them fight if you cared about the fighter losing? I would hope you would say no because that would make you a smart businessman and a compassionate human being..Arum on the other hand says yes and keeps making these fights so clearly he doesn't care about the outcome of the match..just how much revenue it pulled.
            Arum only says yes to those fights when they're kept in-house or when he believes the outcome is an easy win for his fighter.

            He says no when the outcome is uncertain and he has to deal with his biggest competition, Golden Boy.

            Arum is not ****** enough to risk his fighter getting a KO loss against a fighter promoted by the competition and losing all the potential future revenue while raising the competition's future revenue.

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            • iloveboxing2
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              #56
              I'd go to the arena if that fight happens, ring side! I don't care who wins but one of those guys will get knock'd out! Both guys are strong finisher with lots of stamina, so it will be a guaranteed action packed for 12 rounds, if it last that long. But that's just day dreaming.

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              • noStylez
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                #57
                First Pac needs to beat Rios which is a ? Until we see how Pac in the ring.
                But this fight would be a war however long it lasts. I'd put my money on matty.

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                • turnedup
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                  Arum only says yes to those fights when they're kept in-house or when he believes the outcome is an easy win for his fighter.

                  He says no when the outcome is uncertain and he has to deal with his biggest competition, Golden Boy.
                  So you are saying Pacquaio after fighting Marquez 3 times was a sure thing to win the fourth fight? As close as that third fight was..you can say that? I disagree with you on that. Does he prefer in-house fights? Yes. So does every promoter with big enough stars to pull that off. GBP has how many in-house fights per month? Plenty..most just aren't stars yet. Listen I honestly think Arum would toss Pacquaio to a pack of wolves if it could get him 2 million ppv buys and a 12 million dollar gate.

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                  • FrankieClutch
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                    #59
                    This is one of the many reasons I hate the Top Rank vs GBP beef. It's stopping so many great fights. **** YOU ARUM!

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                    • iloveboxing2
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                      #60
                      Dude! Rigo and Donaire are with Top Rank, how can you not know that? So what with the "LMAO"?QUOTE=turnedup;13398008]LMAO..They made Donaire vs Rigo..GBP won't make Mares vs Rigo tho..so again Arum's feud? LMAO...[/QUOTE]

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