Comments Thread For: Schaefer: “I Am Not in The Drug Testing Business”

[DARKSEID]

Obviously not, since he doesnt want any of his fighters to get tested.

[newyorican_papi]

I have to agree with Schaefer on this one. It sucks, but it really isn't his job. That responsibility falls on the contract between the two fighters and the Boxing Commission for the specific venue State to back up what's requested on the contracts by the two fighters.

[HeroBando]

I have to agree with Schaefer on this one. It sucks, but it really isn't his job. That responsibility falls on the contract between the two fighters and the Boxing Commission for the specific venue State to back up what's requested on the contracts by the two fighters.

I'm not picking on you, I like most of your posts. But look, these guys were the pioneers of the OSDT fad, remember them boasting about it? They refuse to work with the agency that does exactly what you ask for, forward the results to the commission. Instead they go with the guys who have no contacts with the commission, and funnel everything through GBP. And now he's whining about being involved? Easy solution, go with the VADA or drop the drug testing window dressing.

[thuggery]

This Schaefer guy might have a heart attack. All kinds of things going wrong for him. This guy is really shady though.

[Da Machine]

Getting sick of Schaeffer. If he can't handle the media.then get out the game.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I'm not picking on you, I like most of your posts. But look, these guys were the pioneers of the OSDT fad, remember them boasting about it? They refuse to work with the agency that does exactly what you ask for, forward the results to the commission. Instead they go with the guys who have no contacts with the commission, and funnel everything through GBP. And now he's whining about being involved? Easy solution, go with the VADA or drop the drug testing window dressing.

Game over. Its funny how people think RS is some good guy, but in all reality, hes just as slimy and greasy as King and Arum. Hes just the new kid on the block in comparison.

[HeroBando]

Game over. Its funny how people think RS is some good guy, but in all reality, hes just as slimy and greasy as King and Arum. Hes just the new kid on the block in comparison.

Arum is a bastard, but he's unabashed about it. I appreciate the honesty. Some of it rubs off on the fighters, looks like. Like Pac dropping his 8th belt on the spot, saying the weight is too much. OTOH Floyd boasts about being 2x and #1 at his 5th weight, but when it's time to fight a genuine SWW, only then does it come out he can't take the weight.

[freudianslip]

Schaefer being a bit of an a$$. He's partly right though, it shouldn't have to be his or Golden Boy's responsibility to ensure that adequate testing is being done. Seeing as though the athletic committees who are responsible, are surprisingly shady in the sport of boxing (see Garcia/Morales II.) I think there's a certain moral obligation on the part of the promoters to want what's best for the boxers, which I think at the very least should be an even playing field. PEDs in boxing is perhaps an old habit the sport can't seem to kick, but its definitely something everyone should want to do without.

[HeroBando]

Schaefer being a bit of an a$$. He's partly right though, it shouldn't have to be his or Golden Boy's responsibility to ensure that adequate testing is being done. Seeing as though the athletic committees who are responsible, are surprisingly shady in the sport of boxing (see Garcia/Morales II.) I think there's a certain moral obligation on the part of the promoters to want what's best for the boxers, which I think at the very least should be an even playing field. PEDs in boxing is perhaps an old habit the sport can't seem to kick, but its definitely something everyone should want to do without.

From everything I've read, they let it proceed as they were told the B sample wouldn't be in until after the fight:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ay-sources-say

"As far as I know, the fight is going on," one of the sources told ESPN.com. "There is nothing that can be done to stop it" because the "B" sample test result has not yet been disclosed.
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"(USADA) said it could be a false positive," one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said. "But from what I understand, they won't know until the test on the 'B' sample comes back, but that probably won't be until after the fight."

Then later Keith Idec reported Morales had tested positive 4 times before the fight.

[PunchyPotorff]

I don't have a problem with what Schaefer is saying. It's like in any biz, there have to be clearly defined roles. No one can do everything in a particular biz, nor should they have to. And really, I think it's kind of ****** for the trend in recent years... make one part of a biz have to be punished because another part of the biz isn't doing what they're supposed to... just to make sure the lax part of the biz tows the line. It's unfair to put that responsibility (or issue, or whatever that part is supposed to do) anywhere but where the problem is.

As for promoters not wanting testing, I think they're ok with it, but they just realize it's one more headache to have to deal with. I've heard so many stories of fighters not showing up, doing illegal substances during training, not knowing what is illegal, you name it. Add to that having to deal with media, trainers, venues, matchmakers etc. So the promoter really does have alotta crap to deal with... most of which a lot of us are unaware of.

This new thing is good for the sport, but there needs to be a set chain of command on all aspects of it, universal throughout the sport. Everyone has to be on the same page for it to work, and everyone has to pull their weight for it to work. Otherwise, no reason to have it, because it will be a bogus mixed up nightmare.