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  • #61
    Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
    Yes, I recall Marquez losing to Norwood...back in the 90's. Not sure if you're aware of his record and competition over the last decade. Marquez has competed with and beaten better fighters than Bradley, and he never took an ass beating from anyone anywhere near as raw as Provodnikov. We'll see on fight night how things shake out, but I feel confident that, even at 38 yrs old, Marquez is a class above Bradley. Incidentally, they probably won't ever fight, but I believe that Bradley might well lose to Chris John if they did.
    Can you name the better fighters??Pac and who else??Stop it fam,John beat Bradley is funny as hell and let's me know you reaching..You know what Johns only good win is??Marquez!!!LOL..

    I'm not trying to down play Marquez mang,he's a great fighter..But I really don't get how you feel like Bradley is not on Marquez's level..Bradley has won all of his belts off of Champions(not vacant)he's also not had many close fights as I've stated and has one of the best resume's of any young fighter..IMO only ones coming close are Mares Froch Ward and that's where that list ends..Bradley has shown to be on the elite level..Oh and beat Pac(The so called Better fighter)before Marquez did..

    We will see on fight night..Or should I say,you'll see on fight night..I already know that both fighters are on a very high level..

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
      Can you name the better fighters??Pac and who else??Stop it fam,John beat Bradley is funny as hell and let's me know you reaching..You know what Johns only good win is??Marquez!!!LOL..

      I'm not trying to down play Marquez mang,he's a great fighter..But I really don't get how you feel like Bradley is not on Marquez's level..Bradley has won all of his belts off of Champions(not vacant)he's also not had many close fights as I've stated and has one of the best resume's of any young fighter..IMO only ones coming close are Mares Froch Ward and that's where that list ends..Bradley has shown to be on the elite level..Oh and beat Pac(The so called Better fighter)before Marquez did..

      We will see on fight night..Or should I say,you'll see on fight night..I already know that both fighters are on a very high level..
      Agree with you, but Froch has already mentioned a possible retirement.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
        Oh god,now Bradley is being compared to the Baby Bull(no offense to Diaz)the same way he was being compared to Hatton before his fight with Pac..How did that workout again??Oh with Bradley having his hand raised..

        Can I also say Bradley last two fights were his only close fights in yrs..You can count the Witter fight,but Bradley clearly won that fight as well..Bradley is one of those fighters that will never get proper credit..People would rather credit guy's like Matt's(has not won a big fight yet)or Khan(lost two back to back and has been beating up bad numerous times)or how about Ortiz??Dude is a quitter..

        FYI Bradley has boxing skills bro,he is not a face first Brawler..He can use movement and ring I.Q. to defeat his opponent..He's done so in the past..Oh by the way,you do know Marquez lost to the legendary Freddie Norwood oh and the great Chris John right??You know what those two have in common??They can box and give Marquez different looks,neither are better then Bradley in all honesty..I'm not saying Marquez is a no hoper..But if you think Bradley is not on Marquez level..You've obviously have not been paying attention..Dude even Marquez see's the difficulty this fight presents..
        I like Bradley too. Yes he lost against PAC, but he still came to fight. Yes he took a beating in his last fight, but he dug deep and pulled out the win.

        The reason he gets no credit is because he isn't flashy. There's not one trait that stands out. He also gets criticized for head butts, which are accidental IMO.

        He is the WW/JWW version of Abner Mares. No matter who he beats, he won't ever receive credit. Fact is, the trait this kid has that people under estimate which makes him a winner, is sheer determination, guts, and heart. You can't teach those skills.

        Hopefully Bob will allow him to continue to fight the best, then all the Bradley haters will see.

        (Plus I thought JMM lost a step. Yes he KO PAC, but I feel it was only cuz PAC was willing to brawl to look for a KO. I think PAC would have stopped him if he paced himself.)

        With that said, I think Bradley UD JMM due to JMMs decline. (Take out the 2 recent PAC fights considering maybe he has pacs number, and he really didn't look good against anyone lately. I honestly think JMM is a little overrated and remember all the criticism people gave Arum when he was talking about making the third PAC fight.)

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        • #64
          Bradley should request for VADA blood testing for his next fight.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by #YOLO View Post
            Agree with you, but Froch has already mentioned a possible retirement.
            Froch and even a fighter like Sergio(I forgot to put him in there as well)old guys with young careers...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
              I have serious doubts that you saw Bradley-Provodnikov. Bradley got the win, but he took a horrible, horrible ass beating. I think that fight probably ruined Bradley and won't be at all surprised to see Marquez have a shockingly easy night against Tim.
              You are going to be sadly mistaken come fight night my friend. Did you see how easily Bradley out boxed Provid in the middle rounds...after being rocked? Tim was fine a few weeks after the fight while Ruslan's face still had deep bruising all over it.

              That was from a Tim Bradley that was semi-depressed, slacked off in training and had to shed 20 pounds in 3 weeks prior to the fight.

              You fail to realize that Tim has beaten guys that no one else can seem to get a victory over....Peterson, Abregu, Alexander. You can say they got gifts but how come they didn't get that same gift over Tim? How come sloppy, weak punching, no fan having Tim gets all the lucky breaks?

              Maybe because he has a lot more skills than you are giving him credit for. Marquez is one of my favorite boxers but he is going to struggle massively against Bradley. He will be swinging with combinations and missing a lot of punches due to Bradley's head movement and footwork. The jab is going to throw Marquez off and force him to reset a lot.

              Expect Tim's overhand right to be a factor in this fight instead of Marquez'. Remember too that it took Marquez 4 fights to do what he did to Pac, he got better in every fight because he had become so familiar with Pac's style.

              Tim knows that both Pac and Mayweather are close to retiring and if he can add Marquez' name to his resume, there will be no way people can't look at him as one of the best in the world. If he rematches Pac and wins again.....it's a wrap, Tim's gonna be top 3 in the sport and no one can take that from him. That thought alone will motivate him to come in 120% for every fight from here on out.

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              • #67
                i have a feeling this will be somewhat of a boring fight, marquez has trouble with fighters like Bradley, slick and not a pressure fighter and marquez does not do well when hes force to pressure hes best when counter punching, I see Bradley winning with no prob

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  You are going to be sadly mistaken come fight night my friend. Did you see how easily Bradley out boxed Provid in the middle rounds...after being rocked? Tim was fine a few weeks after the fight while Ruslan's face still had deep bruising all over it.

                  That was from a Tim Bradley that was semi-depressed, slacked off in training and had to shed 20 pounds in 3 weeks prior to the fight.

                  You fail to realize that Tim has beaten guys that no one else can seem to get a victory over....Peterson, Abregu, Alexander. You can say they got gifts but how come they didn't get that same gift over Tim? How come sloppy, weak punching, no fan having Tim gets all the lucky breaks?

                  Maybe because he has a lot more skills than you are giving him credit for. Marquez is one of my favorite boxers but he is going to struggle massively against Bradley. He will be swinging with combinations and missing a lot of punches due to Bradley's head movement and footwork. The jab is going to throw Marquez off and force him to reset a lot.

                  Expect Tim's overhand right to be a factor in this fight instead of Marquez'. Remember too that it took Marquez 4 fights to do what he did to Pac, he got better in every fight because he had become so familiar with Pac's style.

                  Tim knows that both Pac and Mayweather are close to retiring and if he can add Marquez' name to his resume, there will be no way people can't look at him as one of the best in the world. If he rematches Pac and wins again.....it's a wrap, Tim's gonna be top 3 in the sport and no one can take that from him. That thought alone will motivate him to come in 120% for every fight from here on out.
                  This is what I've wonder for so long..

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    This is what I've wonder for so long..
                    You know how it goes around here..........................

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by mathed View Post
                      You are going to be sadly mistaken come fight night my friend. Did you see how easily Bradley out boxed Provid in the middle rounds...after being rocked? Tim was fine a few weeks after the fight while Ruslan's face still had deep bruising all over it.

                      That was from a Tim Bradley that was semi-depressed, slacked off in training and had to shed 20 pounds in 3 weeks prior to the fight.

                      You fail to realize that Tim has beaten guys that no one else can seem to get a victory over....Peterson, Abregu, Alexander. You can say they got gifts but how come they didn't get that same gift over Tim? How come sloppy, weak punching, no fan having Tim gets all the lucky breaks?

                      Maybe because he has a lot more skills than you are giving him credit for. Marquez is one of my favorite boxers but he is going to struggle massively against Bradley. He will be swinging with combinations and missing a lot of punches due to Bradley's head movement and footwork. The jab is going to throw Marquez off and force him to reset a lot.

                      Expect Tim's overhand right to be a factor in this fight instead of Marquez'. Remember too that it took Marquez 4 fights to do what he did to Pac, he got better in every fight because he had become so familiar with Pac's style.

                      Tim knows that both Pac and Mayweather are close to retiring and if he can add Marquez' name to his resume, there will be no way people can't look at him as one of the best in the world. If he rematches Pac and wins again.....it's a wrap, Tim's gonna be top 3 in the sport and no one can take that from him. That thought alone will motivate him to come in 120% for every fight from here on out.
                      because he's a member of the illuminati. just like judah.

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