Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer: Mayweather Wants a Lower Weight

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

At what point did I say a Floyd/Canelo bout shouldn't take place at 154? Exactly, chill out guy. They're both champs at the weight, I just think there should be a clause saying that Canelo can't rehydrate above 165. I think that's reasonable. I think the fight happening at 147 is unreasonable, thus, we have no clue to whether or not Floyd actually requested the fight at 147 because he has not publicly spoken on this matter, there are 2 sides to every story is there not?

im done doe.

good night doe.

[junior gong]

Man U r fooken ******ed! Cotto weighed in over 160 when he fought Floyd so he too should jump to SMW and fight wars! What a fooken joke u r! Floyd was fighting at 130 and weighed in on fight night at 145 why wasn't he fighting WW instead of picking on smaller guys at 130?

By that nobheads logic, Chad Dawson should be chasing a Klitshcko fight.

[bigsmoothh]

war canelo..............

[cupocity303]

Like it or not Canelo has no bargaining chip. Mayweather has a guaranteed 30 mill each time so revenue's not an issue. Belts aren't an issue because Floyd will more than likely just drop his and his legacy is already sealed. Also, last time I checked Floyd was p4p #1, and the highest grossing. you can't really make demands to someone in that position. Nelo needs this more than Floyd so I'd recommend he play ball. I wouldn't want to see him at 147 but 150 could be good for both.

No, Canelo doesn't really need this. He is 23 and has a decade left of fighting to do, especially if he picks his fights carefully like some we know. At 23, he hasn't even reached his peak yet. Fighting on PPV's and selling out arenas is in his future, for years to come.

So no, he does not need this. Him dropping down to 147 is a Fernando Vargas type of career shorten-er, when he fought Trinidad.

[junior gong]

You mean to tell me it's okay for Canelo to make a lightweight come up to 154 but Floyd can't ask him to drop one weight class. Last I check it was CANELO that rejected. Floyd is the #1 man in boxing and should call all the shots. Period!

[TBOGGS78]

Show me one time he did.

Here you go, but I know 172 is not the same as 175

Canelo weighed 172 lbs. for Trout fight; Mayweather bout out of the question
April 21st, 2013 | Post Comment


By Chris Williams: Floyd Mayweather Jr. recently gave a pretty good reason recently why a fight between him and WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez is an impossibility, saying that he himself fights at right at the weight limit for his welterweight bouts, whereas Canelo rehydrates up to 170 pounds.

Well, last night Canelo rehydrated up to a reported 172 lbs. for his 12 round unanimous decision win over WBA junior middleweight champion Austin Trout at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. You can do the math.


If Mayweather is fighting at around 147 when he steps inside the ring for his fights at 147, then he’d be giving up 25 pounds to Canelo if Mayeather were to fight him. Even if Mayweather was gain a little bit of weight to fight Canelo in junior middleweight, we’re still talking about 20 pounds difference between the two of them.

When Mayweather fought Miguel Cotto last May, the weight that Mayweather put made him bulky and slow and didn’t help his power any. He was like a welterweight that had eaten his way to 154 and didn’t have the power for the division. Canelo is more of a middleweight fighting at junior middleweight right now. His weight last night proved that pretty clearly.

So what people would be asking for Mayweather to do is to fight someone two divisions above him in making that fight happen. They might as well ask Mayweather to fight Sergio Martinez, Gennady Golovkin or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because it would pretty much amount to the same.

The only way I could see a Mayweather-Canelo fight taking place is if the fight were held at 147 and there was a rehydration clause where Canelo couldn’t come into the fight any heavier than 154 tops. That would Canelo a small 5-7 pound weight advantage over Mayweather and I think it would reasonable. But to have the fight take place now with Canelo ballooning up to light heavyweight to face Mayweather, it’s totally unfair and not right.

The thing is Canelo would likely not agree to a rehydration limit and even if he did, I seriously doubt he’d be able to stay below 160. What would likely happen is that he’d come in at 170+ and take whatever fine that would be given, and have a huge advantage over Mayweather in weight.

The only way it would work is if Canelo came in over 160 the night of the fight, then fight would be off but the fight wouldn’t get made with that kind of dire scenario. Who would to risk that when you know you’ve got a fighter that rehydrates to 170.

I think Canelo needs to forget about Mayweather because he’s too big for him. No one is asking Mayweather to fight middleweights Chavez Jr. or Golovkin and Canelo is basically a middleweight righting at junior middleweight. Why doesn’t Canelo fight Chavez Jr., Golovkin or Sergio Martinez? Those guys are his own size? I don’t see Canelo calling them out. Is it because they’re same size as him?

[PAC-BOY]

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[MurkaMan]

If he doesn't care about the belt, no need to fight for it or hold on to it. Either way, the entire world sees him as a chump. Oscar never had to win a belt as a promotional tool. Neither did Tyson, Leonard or Ali....

If he gives it up, then people will say he's ducking Canelo. I been saying the same thing over and over again, you heard me the first time I said it.

And as far as Tyson, Oscar, Ali, and SRL(Who both fought in an era where the belts actuall means something) Im not talking about them.

Im talking about Floyd. You dont have to be angered by it. We come here to be real. Now I dont get down with fake fans who pick and choose fighters to hate, be biased for etc.

Im a fight fan period. I say real things about a fighter whether I like them or not. You dont have to hate Floyd THIS muchoo!

[J The UnBiased]

Hmmm... 3 pounds.... but according to you and your brethren, 2 pounds is what made the difference between Cotto and Manny...



but,
As usual, making up lies.

Typical.

Now tell us again why a 154 titlist shouldn't fight another 154 titlist.

I forgot.

The difference being that Manny and Cotto actually fought with that idiotic weight stipulation, Canelo rehydrating up to 175, oops correction, 172 is a big deal if you're opponent can't even weigh in at 154. Now, back to the subject at hand, not once did I say that this fight should not be at 154. What lie did I make up dude? I just think a rehydration clause is fair. The fight being at 147 in unfair. But I won't crucify Floyd for something Canelo's camp is saying without a confirmation from Floyd's camp. You can't comprehend that, my question is why?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Here you go, but I know 172 is not the same as 175

Canelo weighed 172 lbs. for Trout fight; Mayweather bout out of the question
April 21st, 2013 | Post Comment


By Chris Williams: Floyd Mayweather Jr. recently gave a pretty good reason recently why a fight between him and WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez is an impossibility, saying that he himself fights at right at the weight limit for his welterweight bouts, whereas Canelo rehydrates up to 170 pounds.

Well, last night Canelo rehydrated up to a reported 172 lbs. for his 12 round unanimous decision win over WBA junior middleweight champion Austin Trout at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. You can do the math.


If Mayweather is fighting at around 147 when he steps inside the ring for his fights at 147, then he’d be giving up 25 pounds to Canelo if Mayeather were to fight him. Even if Mayweather was gain a little bit of weight to fight Canelo in junior middleweight, we’re still talking about 20 pounds difference between the two of them.

When Mayweather fought Miguel Cotto last May, the weight that Mayweather put made him bulky and slow and didn’t help his power any. He was like a welterweight that had eaten his way to 154 and didn’t have the power for the division. Canelo is more of a middleweight fighting at junior middleweight right now. His weight last night proved that pretty clearly.

So what people would be asking for Mayweather to do is to fight someone two divisions above him in making that fight happen. They might as well ask Mayweather to fight Sergio Martinez, Gennady Golovkin or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because it would pretty much amount to the same.

The only way I could see a Mayweather-Canelo fight taking place is if the fight were held at 147 and there was a rehydration clause where Canelo couldn’t come into the fight any heavier than 154 tops. That would Canelo a small 5-7 pound weight advantage over Mayweather and I think it would reasonable. But to have the fight take place now with Canelo ballooning up to light heavyweight to face Mayweather, it’s totally unfair and not right.

The thing is Canelo would likely not agree to a rehydration limit and even if he did, I seriously doubt he’d be able to stay below 160. What would likely happen is that he’d come in at 170+ and take whatever fine that would be given, and have a huge advantage over Mayweather in weight.

The only way it would work is if Canelo came in over 160 the night of the fight, then fight would be off but the fight wouldn’t get made with that kind of dire scenario. Who would to risk that when you know you’ve got a fighter that rehydrates to 170.

I think Canelo needs to forget about Mayweather because he’s too big for him. No one is asking Mayweather to fight middleweights Chavez Jr. or Golovkin and Canelo is basically a middleweight righting at junior middleweight. Why doesn’t Canelo fight Chavez Jr., Golovkin or Sergio Martinez? Those guys are his own size? I don’t see Canelo calling them out. Is it because they’re same size as him?

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