Why do trainers, boxers past and present, promoters, managers, etc. praise

[DLT]

Not from you and the other moronic gaggle of bumsniff's, he wasnt.

Dont put me in that group at all. Im a boxing fan. Ive been on this site and Ive been in boxing. Im a Floyd fan but am also a huge Pac fan and I gave Floyd just as much hell for the fight not happening. Pac is an ATG and that cant be disputed IMO. I think Floyd is better and should be ranked higher but it is possible to like both, you know

[Vasyl’s dad]

man i hate these threads -.-

Thank you for your contribution. More importantly, a bigger thanks for keeping it at the top!!!!!!

You are greatly appreciated.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Dont put me in that group at all. Im a boxing fan. Ive been on this site and Ive been in boxing. Im a Floyd fan but am also a huge Pac fan and I gave Floyd just as much hell for the fight not happening. Pac is an ATG and that cant be disputed IMO. I think Floyd is better and should be ranked higher but it is possible to like both, you know

Manny beat every common opponent better. No way Floyd is better achievement wise or career wise. He may have the better all around talent, but that means nothing when you're not using it against the best possible opposition or you'd agree that Canelo pummeling Lopez was one of the greatest performances of all time.




You can chime in here if you'd like.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596241

[DLT]

Manny beat every common opponent better. No way Floyd is better achievement wise or career wise. He may have the better all around talent, but that means nothing when you're not using it against the best possible opposition or you'd agree that Canelo pummeling Lopez was one of the greatest performances of all time.




You can chime in here if you'd like.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=596241

oh, you are one of those trianlge theory fans? How does Pac beat the guys more impressive? Its there style of fighting. Are you saying that Pac's KO is automatically better than a clear 12 round shutout or near shutout? Its there styles.

You then also have to factor in that Pac fought most of those guys after Floyd fought them. Then Pac just got KTFO by JMM and alot of people think he lost the other 3 fights while Floyd dominated him.

Dont just pull things to make your argument fit when they are not true. Also, no on in the world would call Floyd great if his resume was filled with a bunch of Lopez's. Its not true and you know it

[Vasyl’s dad]

oh, you are one of those trianlge theory fans? How does Pac beat the guys more impressive? Its there style of fighting. Are you saying that Pac's KO is automatically better than a clear 12 round shutout or near shutout? Its there styles.

You then also have to factor in that Pac fought most of those guys after Floyd fought them. Then Pac just got KTFO by JMM and alot of people think he lost the other 3 fights while Floyd dominated him.

Dont just pull things to make your argument fit when they are not true. Also, no on in the world would call Floyd great if his resume was filled with a bunch of Lopez's. Its not true and you know it

Not a triangle fan at all. Try again.
Common opponents

DLH
Hatton
Marquez
Mosley
Cotto


Lets see your statement again.

You then also have to factor in that Pac fought most of those guys after Floyd fought them.

DLH-Floyd
Hatton-Floyd
Marquez-Manny
Mosley-Floyd
Cotto-Manny

Most? Uh, No. Just one more. To say most is indicating there is a wide range of difference. It was just one fighter. Now here is how "most" works. Manny beat most common opponents in a more dominant fashion.

DLH- Manny by stoppage, Floyd by sd
Hatton-Manny by KO2, Floyd by KO10
Marquez-Floyd by ud, Manny by draw, sd, md, KO by
Mosley-Manny by 120-107, 120-108, 119-108 including a knockdown, Floyd 119-109x2, 118-110
Cotto- Manny TKO 12, Floyd ud

See the difference?

Heres another of your comments,

Dont just pull things to make your argument fit when they are not true.

Try it sometime.

[2todabody]

Manny beat every common opponent better. No way Floyd is better achievement wise or career wise. He may have the better all around talent, but that means nothing when you're not using it against the best possible opposition or you'd agree that Canelo pummeling Lopez was one of the greatest performances of all time.




You can chime in here if you'd like.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=596241

Can't completely agree with you on that. Once they both got to that top level, their paths were VERY similiar. (I personally will put them about even)
You can play devil's advocate and pick your common opponent statement apart.
Floyd made JMM look like it was the first time he had ever boxed, where Manny went life and death with him, 3 times, and got KO'd the 4th time, Manny gets the nod with Cotto, and dammit i thought he KILLED Hatton lol
but he also fought Hatton almost a year after Floyd, the same with Oscar, and drained him to 145, when Floyd fought him at 154.

I respect your opinion, but i got em even

[Vasyl’s dad]

Can't completely agree with you on that. Once they both got to that top level, their paths were VERY similiar. (I personally will put them about even)
You can play devil's advocate and pick your common opponent statement apart.
Floyd made JMM look like it was the first time he had ever boxed, where Manny went life and death with him, 3 times, and got KO'd the 4th time, Manny gets the nod with Cotto, and dammit i thought he KILLED Hatton lol
but he also fought Hatton almost a year after Floyd, the same with Oscar, and drained him to 145, when Floyd fought him at 154.

I respect your opinion, but i got em even

DLH- Manny by stoppage, Floyd by sd
Hatton-Manny by KO2, Floyd by KO10
Marquez-Floyd by ud, Manny by draw, sd, md, KO by
Mosley-Manny by 120-107, 120-108, 119-108 including a knockdown, Floyd 119-109x2, 118-110
Cotto- Manny TKO 12, Floyd ud

[Mud]

Ive always been a Pac fan and pretty much hated Floyd. But at the same time always believed Floyd is the better boxer by quite some distance.

Pac deserves to get criticism for all those damn catch weights.

The people who say Manny has done nothing special arent worth making threads about.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Ive always been a Pac fan and pretty much hated Floyd. But at the same time always believed Floyd is the better boxer by quite some distance.

Pac deserves to get criticism for all those damn catch weights.

The people who say Manny has done nothing special arent worth making threads about.

All those damn catchweights? You mean a whole 2 fights?

lol, wow. I guess by your estimation, Mannys career consists of three whole fights.

[Mud]

DLH- Manny by stoppage, Floyd by sd
Hatton-Manny by KO2, Floyd by KO10
Marquez-Floyd by ud, Manny by draw, sd, md, KO by
Mosley-Manny by 120-107, 120-108, 119-108 including a knockdown, Floyd 119-109x2, 118-110
Cotto- Manny TKO 12, Floyd ud

But to be fair you have to add catch weights, fighters moving up or down in weight and who beat who first. These things do make a difference.