what is your ranking of Jr WW Division?

[Russian Crushin]

Judah beat Lucas how you scored that fight is for a different thread Judah fought better opponents and has better wins in the weight class so did Khan just because he lost to 2 of the Top 3 JrWW doesn't mean Khan drops behind a guy like Alvarado who 1. lost to unranked Rios
2. has fought a far weaker opponents

Judah was got a robbery decision against Lucas. Judah only fought better opposition, he certainly didnt beat the better comp. Khan lost 2X in a row and has looked like **** ever since. If this was a year and a half ago, you'd have a case but he has lost. Does it matter who he lost to? Since when do loses not count against you in rankings? And those losses are what made those fighters "top fighters" that the funny part. Pac "lost" to 2 P4P ranked fighters, so you agree with him being ranked very high, correct? Alvarado has a win over Rios while Khan as a win over Molina at 140 in their most recent fights. Rankings are based on beating fighters not just fighting them otherwise Judah would be P4P#1

and Kabib is not relevant as of right now maybe they will step up in competition this year but shouldn't be even mentioned yet IMO

Not relevant? Like i said he has Judah's best win in 10 years but 4 rounds earlier and then beat Guzman. He has better wins at 140 in the last year then Judah has in about 8 years He may not have fought Lucas, Garcia and Khan but he didnt loss to them either. Losses count against you otherwise emmanuel Augustus is an ATG and top fighter at 140

[Phenom]

Judah was got a robbery decision against Lucas. Judah only fought better opposition, he certainly didnt beat the better comp. Khan lost 2X in a row and has looked like **** ever since. If this was a year and a half ago, you'd have a case but he has lost. Does it matter who he lost to? Since when do loses not count against you in rankings? And those losses are what made those fighters "top fighters" that the funny part. Pac "lost" to 2 P4P ranked fighters, so you agree with him being ranked very high, correct? Alvarado has a win over Rios while Khan as a win over Molina at 140 in their most recent fights. Rankings are based on beating fighters not just fighting them otherwise Judah would be P4P#1

if we go by how we scored the fight I had Judah beating Lucas and Peterson losing to Khan so that's that and I wouldn't rank Devon Alexander or Malignaggi ahead of Pacquiao because he at welterwight right now

since you brought it up now I'm curious to see your WW ranking but I'm guessing you wont hold those 2 losses against Pacquiao and wont put much weight in how badly Bradley looked

Not relevant? Like i said he has Judah's best win in 10 years but 4 rounds earlier and then beat Guzman. He has better wins at 140 in the last year then Judah has in about 8 years He may not have fought Lucas, Garcia and Khan but he didnt loss to them either. Losses count against you otherwise emmanuel Augustus is an ATG and top fighter at 140

wasn't mabuza on 3 fight losing streak at that point and what has he done since? and seriously Joan Guzman? I give him more props for beating Campbell tbh

[King_]

Judah beat Lucas how you scored that fight is for a different thread Judah fought better opponents and has better wins in the weight class so did Khan just because he lost to 2 of the Top 3 JrWW doesn't mean Khan drops behind a guy like Alvarado who 1. lost to unranked Rios
2. has fought a far weaker opponents

and Kabib is not relevant as of right now maybe they will step up in competition this year but shouldn't be even mentioned yet IMO

Khabib has stepped up in each of his last 3-4 fights. He is a legit top 10 ranked at 140 no matter what you say, so how can you say he is not relevant?

How can you say Rios-Alvardo are relevant but not Khabib when their best wins are against each other, lol. aside from a win against the other. Rios-Alvardo résumé is pretty much the same as Khabibs (not including Abril W I thought was a blatant robbery) except Khabib has done it in about half the fights as Alvardo


Is Prescott and Hererra REALLY that much more better then Campbell, Mabuza and Guzman?

[King_]

if we go by how we scored the fight I had Judah beating Lucas and Peterson losing to Khan so that's that and I wouldn't rank Devon Alexander or Malignaggi ahead of Pacquiao because he at welterwight right now

since you brought it up now I'm curious to see your WW ranking but I'm guessing you wont hold those 2 losses against Pacquiao and wont put much weight in how badly Bradley looked



wasn't mabuza on 3 fight losing streak at that point and what has he done since? and seriously Joan Guzman? I give him more props for beating Campbell tbh

No. He was coming off a loss to Judah, in which he dropped him and was actually winning before he got caught, and a COMPETITIVE UD loss to Van Heerden..... That fight was in South Africa as well. Before that he beat Fedchenko and Holt (hardly the best Wins) but the Mabuza win for khabib and the way he destructed him, was very impressive. IMO


And Khabib went into Guzmans backyard and beat his ass when ALL of the cards were stacked against him. Seriously, the fix was in, from the ref , to the incompetent judge who scored it for Guzman.


I could see how some people don't rate Khabib highly yet die to popularity, maybe. But it's about talent, no? And the talent is there..... I can't wait til he comes back. Khabib is/will beat both Alvardo and Rios, IMO

[Roja's480]

Garcia
Peterson
Mattysse
Khan
Judah
Alvarado
Rios

[Phenom]

No. He was coming off a loss to Judah, in which he dropped him and was actually winning before he got caught, and a COMPETITIVE UD loss to Van Heerden..... That fight was in South Africa as well. Before that he beat Fedchenko and Holt (hardly the best Wins) but the Mabuza win for khabib and the way he destructed him, was very impressive. IMO


And Khabib went into Guzmans backyard and beat his ass when ALL of the cards were stacked against him. Seriously, the fix was in, from the ref , to the incompetent judge who scored it for Guzman.


I could see how some people don't rate Khabib highly yet die to popularity, maybe. But it's about talent, no? And the talent is there..... I can't wait til he comes back. Khabib is/will beat both Alvardo and Rios, IMO

I have no problem with him being ranked between 7-10 I was just saying he is not relevant when were were talking about top 5 he did what he needed to do against stepping stones and gatekeepers but at 30+ he should be fighting better opposition

[Ringlife]

1.Garcia
2.Matts
3.Peterson
4.Khan
5.Alvarado
6.Rios
7.Judah
8.Khabib
9.Ajose
10.Crawford

[SlySlickSmooth]

Garcia
Lucas/Peterson
Alvarado
Provodnikov
Judah
Rios
Khan

[King_]

I have no problem with him being ranked between 7-10 I was just saying he is not relevant when were were talking about top 5 he did what he needed to do against stepping stones and gatekeepers but at 30+ he should be fighting better opposition

He will. He was supposed to fight Prescott and Arum said if he won that he could fight Rios/Alvardo..... Suffered an unfortunate minor setback with an injury. But if he wins his comeback fight in July, he'll continue to step up.

His career was progressing nicely until he has to withdraw from Prescott bout.

He will be relevant to you by the end of the year, IMO

[joesaiditstrue]

hilarious how people use a robbery to discredit Lucas Matthysse

and then have the nerve to say that he really lost the fight, lol.

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