Comments Thread For: 60 and 14: Klitschko Continues To Extend His Reign

[mrosborne]

I actually agree with you because Wlad began to fight smarter so he wouldn't gas. I also have to wonder if you have ever even watched the Puritty and the first Brewster fight. And did I really see that you compared Wlad to Pavlik? Wow, as much as I liked Kelly that is beyond laughable.

I did watch both fights actually... as they happened live. Puritty was a complete surprise, nobody saw that coming. I was shocked. Wlad had that fight all day long.

Brewster though, different story. I saw that and I remember telling a friend as we watched it, Wlad is getting TIRED. My friend said no the white guy has got this, I said no Brewster is getting in there watch the next 4-5 rounds. Sure enough Brewster got in there and blasted Wlad. Laid him out.

[Pain~Lucy]

should accept the fact that he's the greatest hw in his era, he could be boring to you but not to all, I like wlad, he always come in shape and stick to his plan, same to mayweather

[The Hammer]

[Ravens Fan]

I did watch both fights actually... as they happened live. Puritty was a complete surprise, nobody saw that coming. I was shocked. Wlad had that fight all day long.

Brewster though, different story. I saw that and I remember telling a friend as we watched it, Wlad is getting TIRED. My friend said no the white guy has got this, I said no Brewster is getting in there watch the next 4-5 rounds. Sure enough Brewster got in there and blasted Wlad. Laid him out.

Laid him out? In both fights Wlad looked absolutely exhausted and I really don't believe that you watched the fights.

[{Darko}]

Laid him out? In both fights Wlad looked absolutely exhausted and I really don't believe that you watched the fights.

the purrity fight was in 1998 in ukraine i would be curious to hear how he watched that fight in america. perhaps he has access to online streams before they existed when the internet was still just developing?

[Ravens Fan]

the purrity fight was in 1998 in ukraine i would be curious to hear how he watched that fight in america. perhaps he has access to online streams before they existed when the internet was still just developing?

I didn't even think of that and you may be on to something.

[BennyST]

I thought he looked really good yesterday. Was throwing solid combos off the bat, though his jab was nowhere apart from in brief bursts, and really pushing the offence early rather than waiting too much. There were times when I thought he was going to fall into that trap of waiting on the openings too often rather than creating them, but he came out of it quickly and looked great on offence and defense.

Maybe having Banks is going to be good for him....?

The big test will be whether he does this against his best opponents from here on out, or whether it was purely because it was just a crappy stay busy fight and he knew the guy was no threat from sparring etc. Hopefully he does.

[{Darko}]

I thought he looked really good yesterday. Was throwing solid combos off the bat, though his jab was nowhere apart from in brief bursts, and really pushing the offence early rather than waiting too much. There were times when I thought he was going to fall into that trap of waiting on the openings too often rather than creating them, but he came out of it quickly and looked great on offence and defense.

Maybe having Banks is going to be good for him....?

The big test will be whether he does this against his best opponents from here on out, or whether it was purely because it was just a crappy stay busy fight and he knew the guy was no threat from sparring etc. Hopefully he does.

why do you think he was measuring with his left so much rather than throwing hard jabs? pianeta did try and land that right hook so perhaps it was a strategy to avoid that punch and help set up his left hook which was a huge factor in the fight. that lead right left hook combo couldn't miss all night long.

i agree his last two fights with banks wlad has been more aggressive and willing to let punches go lets just it continues against guys like povetkin, pulev, fury.

[hweightblogger]

60-3.... and still no one cares.

Except for the 150(!) countries where this fight has been broadcast.

Compared to the attendence of Tyson vs Lennox (15000 and 4000 seats empty) or Ali vs Liston II (2000+ people) boxing must be really dead nowadays.

[hweightblogger]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...7035&cat=boxer

Review that link above. When was the last time Wlad KO'ed anyone before 6 rounds? A cruiserweight named Jean Mormeck. A guy who should have never been there in the first place.

Your selective reasoning is funny.

First of all let me point out that Wlad surpassed Tyson's record a long time ago, hence trying to convince others that a winner is worse than a loser based on excitement alone is a moot point.

Then let me point out that Tyson was probably the most exciting heavyweight of all times (inside and outside of the ring), who looked even exciting in his LOSSES. Hence comparing ANYONE to Mike Tyson is unfair. If you expect the Klitschkos to be beaten up (by a blown up light heavyweight like Evan Fields) and then out of frustration to bite off a piece of their opponent's ear, then I can assure you: This will never happen. The Klitschkos will never be as exciting as that.

But now my main point:

Tyson fought 81.5 rounds in HW world championships. He scored 10 KOs.
In other words: He needed 8 rounds per KO.

Wlad needs 9 rounds per KO in HW championships. That's only slightly worse than Tyson. (Ali needed 20 rounds per KO by the way, and that even includes bums, handicaps, sub-200 opponents and KOs in round 13+).

However: Wlad has fought 8x southpaws in his championships. (That's the world record by the way.) Mike Tyson has fought NONE. Not a single southpaw. Southpaws are the most difficult to KO. Hence to objectively compare KOrecords one should always compare orthodox to orthodox.

Wlad needs 8 rounds per KO against orthodox opponents. The same as Tyson.

Additionally a lot of Tyson's KOvictims had been KOed before. Hence there was a blueprint how to KO them again.

Once you compare
* world championships
* against opponents, whom no one else managed to previously KO
* against natural heavyweights (since you like to diss Mormeck) (= those who never boxed below 200)

...it turns out that Tyson managed to KO 2 (TWO) opponents (Biggs, Tubbs), Lennox 3 (includes Oliver McCall), Ali 2, Joe Louis (since he's mentioned in the article) 0, while Wladimir managed to KO 9 (NINE)!

And this already includes southpaws, hence Wlad is even better than this statistic already reveals.

Review that link above. When was the last time Wlad KO'ed anyone before 6 rounds? A cruiserweight named Jean Mormeck. A guy who should have never been there in the first place.

1) When was the last time Tyson KOed anyone under six rounds in world championships? 1996 (= 9 years before Tyson's end of career). Bruce Seldon, a 6'1'' guy.

2) If Mormeck should't have been there then Michael Spinks (started at 166) shouldn't have been there either with Mike Tyson.