Open Scoring

[MrFactor]

what if they shouldnt be behind? What if they should be winning or it should be close but some idiot/crooked judge has him losing by a ton. Now he changes the way he's fighting and gets KTFO

There should be 5 judges. 3 ringside and 2 in a closet with several monitors and no commentary. I would even say perhaps the 2 should be in a different state, so they have no ties at all. That would be a way of having checks and balances in the system.

If scoring was open, then the ring side judges would be subject to more scrutiny if their score was posted after every round. It would be much more apparent to the fans, it would effect the money and those judges would get booted out quickly after 1 or 2 fights. Not everyone who is a judge is cut out to be a judge.

[DLT]

There should be 5 judges. 3 ringside and 2 in a closet with several monitors and no commentary. I would even say perhaps the 2 should be in a different state, so they have no ties at all. That would be a way of having checks and balances in the system.

If scoring was open, then the ring side judges would be subject to more scrutiny if their score was posted after every round. It would be much more apparent to the fans, it would effect the money and those judges would get booted out quickly after 1 or 2 fights. Not everyone who is a judge is cut out to be a judge.

I thought judges would be scared also until I saw that judge had Canelo winning 10 rounds

[DLT]

Open scoring after EVERY round, you'd see that before it became a problem. Fighters wouyld get posed, especially if they think they won a round and the cards say different.





If Trout knew he was losing as many rounds, then he could have changed his strategy well before the 8th. Making adjustments isnt anything new in the sport.

yeah but also what about a fighters mind? Its not just about changing strategy, its also about screwing up a fighter mentally. You can break a guy or get someone pissed off which is in both cases bad for the fighter. I know some boxers who may jump up screaming if losing after 4 when they know they should be ahead, dominate the next 4 rounds, and are still losing after 8. Those guys may start standing up and going crazy. Yelling at the fans, cameras, judges, commentators and so on.

I could just see a guy jumping up like "how the fudge am I losing? They are trying to rob me". Throwing a tantrum and just totally effecting the rest of the belt. I just dont like all the negative possiblities. The bad far outweighs the good that could come from doing it

[MrFactor]

yeah but also what about a fighters mind? Its not just about changing strategy, its also about screwing up a fighter mentally. You can break a guy or get someone pissed off which is in both cases bad for the fighter. I know some boxers who may jump up screaming if losing after 4 when they know they should be ahead, dominate the next 4 rounds, and are still losing after 8. Those guys may start standing up and going crazy. Yelling at the fans, cameras, judges, commentators and so on.

I could just see a guy jumping up like "how the fudge am I losing? They are trying to rob me". Throwing a tantrum and just totally effecting the rest of the belt. I just dont like all the negative possiblities. The bad far outweighs the good that could come from doing it

LOL!!! I can see that too, maybe thats what boxing needs.

[game20ver]

yeah but also what about a fighters mind? Its not just about changing strategy, its also about screwing up a fighter mentally. You can break a guy or get someone pissed off which is in both cases bad for the fighter. I know some boxers who may jump up screaming if losing after 4 when they know they should be ahead, dominate the next 4 rounds, and are still losing after 8. Those guys may start standing up and going crazy. Yelling at the fans, cameras, judges, commentators and so on.

I could just see a guy jumping up like "how the fudge am I losing? They are trying to rob me". Throwing a tantrum and just totally effecting the rest of the belt. I just dont like all the negative possiblities. The bad far outweighs the good that could come from doing it

Exactly, I could see guys yelling, and complaining to the judges mid fight like NBA players complain to the referees for bad calls during a basketball game. Open scoring is just horrible.

[lopetego]

Open scoring is garbage, it totally kills the suspense for the fans following a close match and it affects the dynamics of a fight. Just look at the last round of Canelo-Trout for example, Canelo didn't even try to finish strong as it's supposed to be, just because he knew he was way ahead on the scorecards

[Motofan]

Open scoring is garbage, it totally kills the suspense for the fans following a close match and it affects the dynamics of a fight. Just look at the last round of Canelo-Trout for example, Canelo didn't even try to finish strong as it's supposed to be, just because he knew he was way ahead on the scorecards

Yep. You would see more guys taking the championship rounds off and fans leaving early. Horrible, horrible idea.

[TintaBoricua]

It has pro's and con's but overall given the amount of controversies in judging, I think any kind of increased transparency is an overriding good thing fundamentally.

There's hardly any sports really, whereby the athlete's don't know how they are 'scoring'. Whether they are ahead or behind.

It does matter and hiding the round by round scoring from the fans is one thing, from the athlete's is another.

A lot of rematches could be avoided as-well imo, as once the boxer gets a small insight as to how their work is being viewed by the judges, both have an open transparent opportunity to just tweak what they are doing within their ability.

That happens in all sports, you're tested as to what you do with being ahead or behind. Some improve knowing they are ahead, some don't. Some improve knowing they are behind, some don't. It goes all ways.

THAT'S the winning formula. Show it to the viewer's on TV, but hide it from the fighters.

[shade darkar]

personally not a fan of the open scoring, prefer the suspense of waiting to see what the scores are at the end!

[Bigg Rigg]

I'm not a fan of it. I fcking hate it to be honest.