Saul Alvarez/Virgil Hunter - Andre Berto/Fritz Sdunek

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  • BarryRobinson
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    #1

    Saul Alvarez/Virgil Hunter - Andre Berto/Fritz Sdunek

    Fighters that can benefit from a change in trainer and why

  • boliodogs
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    #2
    Canelo has a very good team already.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #3
      Ok so I finally watched (well FF to the part where you talk about Canelo) and I have to say, you said nothing in this video.

      You said Canelo is young, he can do a little of everything, and he could benefit from Virgil Hunter because he can expand his game and take him to the next level.

      You also talked about how he could spar Andre Ward and that would be excellent sparring.

      Ok, first off, he has EXCELLENT trainers in Chepo and his family.. He comes from a boxing family, where all of his brothers (I believe there's 7 of them) are/were pro fighters.

      You never gave one reason why Hunter is better than Chepo or his family. You just stated he could benefit from him (why? give specifics).

      Mexico has no lack of top trainers, it's a boxing country with nearly 100 years of boxing experience. Canelo just showed a different dimension in his boxing against Trout. A fighter many said he would avoid and couldn't box with.

      Canelo is fine where he is. Does he have a lot to learn, sure but it's not so much technical as it is the mental aspect of the game and Oscar has spoken about this in detail. His skills are there, his training it top notch, he just needs to put it all together physically, mentally and at 22 years old, he's years ahead of where he needs to be.

      I find this video a little disrespectful and if you are going to make a claim, at least give enough respect as to WHY you feel Hunter is better than Canelo's trainers. (and how you could possibly know this is a mystery to me)

      The fact Canelo is 22 and already a star, undefeated and has shown many different dimensions to him game lets me know his trainers are doing pretty good.

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      • flint
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        #4
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        Canelo has a very good team already.
        canelo does not have very good trainers. and when that adversity shows its face. its going to be ugly in the corner.

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        • FrenchDeLaHoya
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          #5
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
          Ok so I finally watched (well FF to the part where you talk about Canelo) and I have to say, you said nothing in this video.

          You said Canelo is young, he can do a little of everything, and he could benefit from Virgil Hunter because he can expand his game and take him to the next level.

          You also talked about how he could spar Andre Ward and that would be excellent sparring.

          Ok, first off, he has EXCELLENT trainers in Chepo and his family.. He comes from a boxing family, where all of his brothers (I believe there's 7 of them) are/were pro fighters.

          You never gave one reason why Hunter is better than Chepo or his family. You just stated he could benefit from him (why? give specifics).

          Mexico has no lack of top trainers, it's a boxing country with nearly 100 years of boxing experience. Canelo just showed a different dimension in his boxing against Trout. A fighter many said he would avoid and couldn't box with.

          Canelo is fine where he is. Does he have a lot to learn, sure but it's not so much technical as it is the mental aspect of the game and Oscar has spoken about this in detail. His skills are there, his training it top notch, he just needs to put it all together physically, mentally and at 22 years old, he's years ahead of where he needs to be.

          I find this video a little disrespectful and if you are going to make a claim, at least give enough respect as to WHY you feel Hunter is better than Canelo's trainers. (and how you could possibly know this is a mystery to me)

          The fact Canelo is 22 and already a star, undefeated and has shown many different dimensions to him game lets me know his trainers are doing pretty good.
          POWNED! these vids are corny, never will i watch another again

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          • Mikhnienko
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            #6
            Kyshenko was a savage killer from day one. The only reason he changed gyms was for better resources, world class sparring and Holland being a capital of Kickboxing so its easier to stay involved and get opportunities. It would be like trying to base a pro boxing career out of Kazakhstan vs Germany.

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            • Prince Mongo
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              #7
              Canelo looks pretty good to me. He seems to have stamina issues and has evolved a style which takes this into account. If his conditioning can be improved I see him altering his style with it but his conditioning needs to be upgraded.
              He also seems happy in his set up and being comfortable is important to him and a change could upset the apple cartand you should never weaken the strong in order to strengthen the weak.
              Last edited by Prince Mongo; 04-24-2013, 09:15 AM.

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              • RL_GMA
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                #8
                Is this the new trend, to switch trainers like sneakers?



                Canelo's team seems to be doing fine. Canelo's shown different aspects of his game as recent as his last fight. Why would anyone in this position jump into a completely different camp / training if there aren't any actual problems with the current camp?

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