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  • Joeyzagz
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    How do you rank the Big 4 UK Heavyweights after 4/20?

    Chisora fought the toughest schedule in modern history(Fury, Vitali, Helenius, Haye, ) Lost to all 4 but probably has the strongest chin on this list.

    David Price Hardest puncher of the group but the least experienced. Got unlucky against Thompson. I still think he has the most promising future.

    Tyson Fury Last undefeated standing. Got caught by cunningham and came back to win. He's 1 good fight away from a Klitschko brother.

    David Haye Fought the best Heavyweight in the world in only his 4th fight at the weight class and went the distance. Most seasoned by far but also the smallest.
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    #1 Haye.

    The most talented of the bunch by a distance, but kind of too small really, can't beat Wladamir, he can handle just about anyone else though

    #2 Tyson Fury

    Fought an idiotic fight last night, really needs to sort out his mentality and conditioning, but imo he is skilled and a natural FIGHTER, can beat most guys except the Klitschko's, Haye and maybe 1 or 2 others

    #3 derick chisora

    Tough guy, throwback fighter, good on the inside. His conditioning is a major question mark as is his mentality. He's not consistent at all, but is a solid heavyweight, on his best day he's in the fight with almost anyone.

    #4 David Price

    Has power and conditioning but very little else. Is not a natural fighter and has the worst punch resistance I have seen in the last 10 years. A glass cannon who can beat guys if he hits them on the chin, but is one punch away from losing to anyone.

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    • LacedUp
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      #3
      Originally posted by Joeyzagz
      Chisora fought the toughest schedule in modern history(Fury, Vitali, Helenius, Haye, ) Lost to all 4 but probably has the strongest chin on this list.

      David Price Hardest puncher of the group but the least experienced. Got unlucky against Thompson. I still think he has the most promising future.

      Tyson Fury Last undefeated standing. Got caught by cunningham and came back to win. He's 1 good fight away from a Klitschko brother.

      David Haye Fought the best Heavyweight in the world in only his 4th fight at the weight class and went the distance. Most seasoned by far but also the smallest.
      #1 Haye - No question. He's fought at better level, has the best amateur background, best pro career (so far). He's the most skilled and at this stage Britain's best hope for a HW champion.

      #2 Fury - Now has a better resume of the rest of the crop. Good KO %, good movement, undefeated and could potentially be a champion in the future.

      #3 Price - Even though he lost his last fight against a top 10-13 HW via KO, he's still fought at a decent domestic level and KO's everyone early. Size and reach advantage over everyone (except Fury) and is arguably top 3 hardest punchers in the division. Has a weak chin though.

      #4 Chisora - Good talent, limited power. Is actually quicker than most people give him credit for. Has lost to both Haye and Fury and has lost on two (one) other occasions. Is a very good come-forward fighter and has a cast iron chin. But IMO his talents don't stack up to his heart.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Earl Hickey
        #1 Haye.

        The most talented of the bunch by a distance, but kind of too small really, can't beat Wladamir, he can handle just about anyone else though

        #2 Tyson Fury

        Fought an idiotic fight last night, really needs to sort out his mentality and conditioning, but imo he is skilled and a natural FIGHTER, can beat most guys except the Klitschko's, Haye and maybe 1 or 2 others

        #3 derick chisora

        Tough guy, throwback fighter, good on the inside. His conditioning is a major question mark as is his mentality. He's not consistent at all, but is a solid heavyweight, on his best day he's in the fight with almost anyone.

        #4 David Price

        Has power and conditioning but very little else. Is not a natural fighter and has the worst punch resistance I have seen in the last 10 years. A glass cannon who can beat guys if he hits them on the chin, but is one punch away from losing to anyone.
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        we have a winner , that's exactly how they rank!

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        • Earl-Hickey
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          #5
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          #1 Haye - No question. He's fought at better level, has the best amateur background, best pro career (so far). He's the most skilled and at this stage Britain's best hope for a HW champion.

          #2 Fury - Now has a better resume of the rest of the crop. Good KO %, good movement, undefeated and could potentially be a champion in the future.

          #3 Price - Even though he lost his last fight against a top 10-13 HW via KO, he's still fought at a decent domestic level and KO's everyone early. Size and reach advantage over everyone (except Fury) and is arguably top 3 hardest punchers in the division. Has a weak chin though.

          #4 Chisora - Good talent, limited power. Is actually quicker than most people give him credit for. Has lost to both Haye and Fury and has lost on two (one) other occasions. Is a very good come-forward fighter and has a cast iron chin. But IMO his talents don't stack up to his heart.

          Out of interest do you think a motivated chisora loses to price?

          Chisora doesn't get taken out quickly, and makes his opponents fight, even Haye got forced into a brawl at times, I think Price would wilt against chisora

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            #6
            Originally posted by Earl Hickey
            Out of interest do you think a motivated chisora loses to price?

            Chisora doesn't get taken out quickly, and makes his opponents fight, even Haye got forced into a brawl at times, I think Price would wilt against chisora
            You can san the same thing about motivated, in shape Chisora against Fury..

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              #7
              Originally posted by Pies
              You can san the same thing about motivated, in shape Chisora against Fury..
              No you can't. The thing chisora loses when overweight is his footspeed. Fury beat him up on the inside anyway so it hardly made a difference.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Earl Hickey
                Out of interest do you think a motivated chisora loses to price?

                Chisora doesn't get taken out quickly, and makes his opponents fight, even Haye got forced into a brawl at times, I think Price would wilt against chisora
                I'm not going to say he would definitely win. They've sparred a lot and I think both guys would be confident. It's 50/50 in my book. If Price lands one of those jackhammers on Chisora he could knock him out. As he could with anyone.

                If Chisora lands, with Price's chin, the same could happen.

                However, as it stands now, Price is ahead on wins, resumes and KO ratio.

                Originally posted by Pies
                You can san the same thing about motivated, in shape Chisora against Fury..
                Chisora rocked Fury in round 2 or 3 if I remember correctly. I wouldn't count him out in a rematch if he came in the shape he was in against Helenius. He wouldn't be as gassed and would have more power in his punches if he actually trained for the fight.

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                • Joeyzagz
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Earl Hickey
                  #1 Haye.

                  The most talented of the bunch by a distance, but kind of too small really, can't beat Wladamir, he can handle just about anyone else though

                  Wlad boxed out of his mind in 2011, probably one of the best skilled performances ever seen from a big man. The 60 fight experience and knowledge of the game won him the fight. A more seasoned 33 year old Haye can beat a 38 year old Wlad in 2014.

                  If Haye closes the experience gap by just an inch, and Wlad slows down just a hair, its just a totally different fight.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joeyzagz
                    Wlad boxed out of his mind in 2011, probably one of the best skilled performances ever seen from a big man. The 60 fight experience and knowledge of the game won him the fight. A more seasoned 33 year old Haye can beat a 38 year old Wlad in 2014.

                    If Haye closes the experience gap by just an inch, and Wlad slows down just a hair, its just a totally different fight.
                    I agree, I was out in Hamburg and people were impressed with Wlad. His own fans! Met them in a bar afterwards and they were all saying it was some of the best they'd seen. All the while, I just thought it was incredibly unentertaining.

                    I'm not sure Haye beats Wlad at any time. Unless Wlad engages more which I don't think he will. If Haye lands one of his haymakers, then Wlad could be in trouble. His knees buckled heavily from that 3rd round punch. But at the end of the day, the outcome would probably be the same.

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