Canelo is a big stamina issue

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Positives:

Defense was great. Didn't get hit with anything big; and avoided plenty of shots. Looked surprising athletic and quick. Impressive

Concerning:

TS is right. Stamina seems to be an issue. My biggest concern is that he cannot seem to change pace. Killing instinct also not there today.

Overall, he's not a brawler or an pressure fighter. He's a slow, methodical, round winning boxer. Probably would struggle against an elite movement guy because he can't seem to change pace.

He's, in other words, 22, not the complete package yet.

Pretty good assessment.

His head movement was really good and he showed some slick moves, but where were the counters?

I was also surprised by how quick his shots looked against a guy considered to be very defensive and quick. His stamina will be his downfall though.

[KOTJ]

I'm assuming you're saying this because of my post. I'm no Canelo fanboy hence why my opinion has more clout.

And yes, you are only saying this because it was fed to you, via the trainers mouth. I know when I see a tired fighter, and this wasn't it.

The secret about Canelo's crappy engine has been out for a minute now, nobody needed a trainer to leak it. It was never really a secret to begin with. Dude is a tank, but he starts fights half-empty.

[CaneloMaidana]

I'm assuming you're saying this because of my post. I'm no Canelo fanboy hence why my opinion has more clout.

And yes, you are only saying this because it was fed to you, via the trainers mouth. I know when I see a tired fighter, and this wasn't it.

You think Canelo wasn't having stamina issues?

[sunny31]

I just finished saying that in another thread.

Sometimes people think because he is young that he should have lots of stamina but often the opposite is true. With age and the closer he gets to hitting his prime, that is when he will have better stamina ....HOPEFULLY .... because right now, his opponents can take advantage of his stamina issues.

He was doing very little yet he was way more exhausted than Trout who had been throwing consistently throughout the round.

Another thing that may contribute to the stamina issues is if Canelo had issues making weight.

Staying in better shape between fights would probably help him. I would not say getting from 180 to 154 is a huge deal if he completely rests between fights tbh, ok the rehydration is quite alarming. But if he could cut that 25lbs to even 15lbs that might be better.

Does anyone know if he takes complete breaks,or does he train all year around?

[cupocity303]

You think Canelo wasn't having stamina issues?

No, he might have been tired as Trout was tired. But what I'm saying is that the whole "stamina issue" hyperbole is exaggerated. Him holding back his punches was entirely by choice. He didn't wanna over commit and be too aggressive against a defensive, counter-punching boxer and get caught clean and look bad. See Pacquiao VS JMM for reference.

A lot of the rounds he would head-fake like he is about to throw and not do it because he knew it wasn't gonna land clean as Trout was already out of position.

[KOTJ]

C****lo is honestly a pile of poo. Floyd fans have just been bigging him up ahead of time lately in anticipation that he'll be Mayweather's next scalp.

[KOTJ]

I'm a Mayweather fan and I'm embarrassed for my peers. C****lo is supposed to be the guy who's going to push Mayweather's legacy over the top. Hahahahahaha. C****lo is so crap it's funny. Mayweather gets no credit from me for schooling this ****.

[Russian Crushin]

Main problem is that he has way too much upper body movement and a lot of the time he doesn't throw when moving. All that upper body movement tires him out so he goes into reserve mode. He needs to learn how to properly conserve energy and not move around so much when he doesnt need to

Also he cut almost 20 pounds, that has to drain him

[KOTJ]

Didn't get hit with anything big; and avoided plenty of shots.

When does Trout throw anything that truly counts as "big"?


As much as the 'power-punches' Trout throws are creampuff, he got his digs in.

[sunny31]

No, he might have been tired as Trout was tired. But what I'm saying is that the whole "stamina issue" hyperbole is exaggerated. Him holding back his punches was entirely by choice. He didn't wanna over commit and be too aggressive against a defensive, counter-punching boxer and get caught clean and look bad. See Pacquiao VS JMM for reference.

A lot of the rounds he would head-fake like he is about to throw and not do it because he knew it wasn't gonna land clean as Trout was already out of position.

Yeah he might have been holding back, but to be fair how do you know it wasnt because he was trying to make sure he didnt completely empty his tank. It wasn't just his lack of activity though, his demeanour changed, and his technique worsened, this happens to every athlete as they get more tired, but it happened far too early to Canelo, and that is alarming to me especially considering it was not a heavy pace. the fact that he was loading up and missing was probably a big factor, but he was clearly more open and his punches and
technique was much sloppier.

Agree to disagree, but the good thing about this argument is time will reveal all. I hope I'm wrong.