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  • #21
    So what you basically said is....In a battle between two fighters, the better fighter usually wins, and that's what happened here.

    superb observation

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Boxer1590 View Post
      So what you basically said is....In a battle between two fighters, the better fighter usually wins, and that's what happened here.

      superb observation
      No that's not what i said.

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      • #23
        Donaire always lacked a natural right hand. He can throw the right hand, but he can't alter it. Rigo was a master on defense, and that befuddled Nonito. Two fists are always better than one

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        • #24
          No Victor Conte

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          • #25
            They squared off, and boxed for the first rounds. Rigo outboxed, and out-countered him. Taking away his best tools.

            Nonito was forced to apply pressure ala Bam Bam or Margarito. But he is no inside fighter, and did a horrible job to cut of the ring.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              I think I saw his demise from the 1st combination he leaned in with in round 1. He did not expect Rigo to answer him back with a better 1. And when he tried it again, the same thing happened. Rigo was content to potshot him with that left hand always ****ed and ready. But whenever Donaire let go, Rigo immediately landed the bigger shot. That forced Donaire to start thinking, then he simply became reluctant to fire.
              Early in the fight, I said to my friends sitting next to me at the bout, "Nonito felt something he didn't like. He's not throwing."

              I, myself, didn't expect Rigo to engage the way he did. In fact, I cringed. But "El Chacal" proved my fears unfounded. He won every exchange. Every time Donaire landed something good, Rigo fired back with something better.

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              • #27
                1) Rigo controlled the pace of the fight, I can't remember the rounds but for me there were moments where I could visibly see Donaire trying to find his rhythm. I think people overlook the role movement plays in depriving your opponent of the ability to set up their traps and punches.

                2) I think Rigo established his jab over Donaire which would consequentially deter him from throwing it.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  He was too focused on trying to land one big shot.

                  2 things became clear by Round 4;

                  1. He's not going to win a decision doing this
                  2. He's not going to knock Rigondeaux out with one punch

                  He had no plan B.
                  That was his problem and it's a problem he's had for a while.

                  That's why despite dominating he hasn't looked great against Navaez, Vasquez and co because he's too busy looking for big, swinging shot's instead of breaking guys down. Once it was clear he wasn't going to win fighting the way he did, which came so apparent early, he should have had a Plan B, he should have tried to break him down, throw combination's to the body.

                  He was very one-dimensional in this fight and that was ultimately his down fall.
                  Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
                  Honestly, I think his head literally widened to the point where he dismissed true boxing. He lost all aspects of technique the past two years cause he was knocking dudes out. Now he ran into a guy who's just technically too sound to be caught careless like his last 4-5 opponents. Rigo is just always supremely disciplined and backs that up with impressive movement, punching power and ring IQ. Donaire needs to get back to basics is what I'm trying to say. I also don't think him and Robert pair up well
                  I'm beginning to think Robert Garcia is at least a little overrated. The trainer is the one that should be formulating the fight plan and working on it with his fighter in the gym. The trainer is the one that should be observing and dictating to his fighter, in between rounds, what changes should be implemented. Of course, then it's up to the fighter to deliver. In all fairness, I don't think anything would've worked against Rigo that night. "El Chacal" was simply the better fighter, period. But Garcia was saying things to Donaire like, "You've gotta do something Nonito!" Really Robert? How about telling him what that something is....

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                  • #29
                    counter punchers dont do well against better counter punchers lol
                    see floyd vs marquez

                    marquez and donaire usualy do better against come forward fighters like pacquiao

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                    • #30
                      Rigo showed us why philipino fighters avoid slick black fighters like the plague. They cant handle all of that slickness, its their kryptonite. Donaire had balls taking this fight knowing he was going to get schooled.

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