Wlad is a counter puncher, but you are correct with your examples, especially Calzaghe/Hopkins. Those pressure fighters did force a faster pace on those counter punchers and the counter punchers suffered losses because of it.
And the counter puncher does not always bring the aggressive fighter down. Abner Mares and Carl Froch are recent proof of that. As was Manny Pacquiao at his best.
I don't consider Moreno a counter puncher. And what counterpuncher did Froch fight that he had success against?
not at the counter-punchers pace, plenty of punches
dont rate/consider vlad as a counter-puncher
i believe pac threw fewer punches vs JMM than any oher ww opponent. i thin k you found some good fights but i think they are the exception and not the rule.
i believe pac threw fewer punches vs JMM than any oher ww opponent. i thin k you found some good fights but i think they are the exception and not the rule.
I don't consider Moreno a counter puncher. And what counterpuncher did Froch fight that he had success against?
Even in losing, he threw as much as always against Ward and had him sucking wind in the last two rounds. Bute was the favored knockout artist counter puncher, and Froch smoked him.
Moreno is definitely a counter puncher. He just doesn't have power.
Pac at 122 is an entirely different fighter than Donaire. Nothing about last night gives a clue towards a potential Pac-Rigo fight.
I'd pick Pac to stop Rigo. He was a crazy animal back then, Rigondeaux would have to land some huge shots that stopped Pac in his tracks. Don't see it happening.
Pacquiao was outboxed by Morales around that time. He still lacked refinement and was very one dimensional
This fighter fights like Rigo. He is a boxer who moves a lot. He was a Thailand boxing hero, WBC champ and Lineal champ.
See what I'm trying to say? This guy was giving Pac a boxing lesson and was boxing his ears off. Watch the full video and guess what happened? My point is..Pac proved he can beat a boxer/runner while Rigo's one good win against fellow boxer/mover did not.
Now show me a video of Rigo beating a fighter like Pac with the same attributes not those tomato cans.
Aside from the KO, I guess Pac's chin broke the Thai Champs fist. Damn Manny kept coming forward looking to land while eating tons of punches lol!
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