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  • #81
    [QUOTE=baya;13221864]dude, in cali, those wraps are legal, in ny they weren't, it's not an issue.[/QUOTE

    Well it sure was for the hopkins camp and Tito had to wrap his hands 3 times to get it right.Now that fishy if you ask me, Tito Sr. even said that it took away his power when he wasn't allowed to rap them like he dose, plus he didn't look like the Tito that had power because he was cheating at the time, but once they caught him he wasnt showing the same power as before.
    Last edited by Toltec77; 04-07-2013, 08:14 PM.

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    • #82
      [QUOTE=Toltec77;13221884]
      Originally posted by baya View Post
      dude, in cali, those wraps are legal, in ny they weren't, it's not an issue.[/QUOTE

      Well it sure was for the hopkins camp and Tito had to rap his hands 3 times to get it right.Now that fishy if you ask me, Tito Sr. even said that it took away his power when he wasn't allowed to rap them like he dose, plus he didn't look like the Tito that had power because he was cheating at the time, but once they caught him he wasnt showing the same power as before.
      tito was owning vegas for years so papa trini did the same thing in NYC, where wrapping rules are different.

      he was at 160, out his depth and from there fought rjj, and some other dudes who were just naturally bigger. happens when you move up a lot of times unless your name is pac.

      tito wasn't a cheater.

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      • #83
        [QUOTE=baya;13221891]
        Originally posted by Toltec77 View Post

        tito was owning vegas for years so papa trini did the same thing in NYC, where wrapping rules are different.

        he was at 160, out his depth and from there fought rjj, and some other dudes who were just naturally bigger. happens when you move up a lot of times unless your name is pac.

        tito wasn't a cheater.
        Well that's what you believe, but I don't, he's a cheat in my book. I just find that funny that he never hit with the same power, and you even agree to that, but guys carry that power with them, and its not like tito jumped two weight class, so I don't see that being a problem., but I see it as cheating and Tito Sr. said he always wrapped his son hands like that every fight and what was a matter with it, and he also said that it took away from Tito power when he wasn't allow to wrap them the way he would during the Hopkin fight.
        Last edited by Toltec77; 04-07-2013, 08:16 PM.

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        • #84
          [QUOTE=Toltec77;13221948]
          Originally posted by baya View Post

          Well that's what you believe, but I don't, he's a cheat in my book. I just find that funny that he never hit with the same power, and you even agree to that, but guys carry that power with them, and its not like tito jumped two weight class, so I don't see that being a problem., but I see it as cheating and Tito Sr. said he always wrapped his son hands like that every fight and what was a matter with it, and he also said that it took away from Tito power when he wasn't allow to wrap them the way he would during the Hopkin fight.
          After he fought Hopkins, Trinidad fought Cherifi knocked him out then retired. Came back out of retirement and fought and ko'd Mayorga then lost to Winky wright and retired again, then came back and lost to Roy Jones. Tito has only lost to great defensive fighters everybody else he walked through. Wraps had nothing to do with it, Tito was one of the best finishers in the game, tremendous stamina, and power. He lost to the best.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Tomasio View Post
            The next line of world champs I'm pretty sure We'll have is Jonathan"Bomba" Gonzalez, Orlandito Del Valle(especially now that he's training with Legendary trainer Nacho Berstaín), McJoe Arroyo(his brother McWilliams, even thou he was an amateur world champion, he doesn't convince Me as a pro) & Felix Verdejo.. Unfortunately "Chelo" Gonzalez is NOT ready for title shot, as a matter of fact he shouldn't even be ranked #1(especially after his last performance against journeyman Alejandro Rodriguez)Even thou "Chelo" is a strong & well conditioned fighter & has 22 fights under his belt, he hasn't fought a top of the line ranked fighter yet & still needs to work on a few things & correct a few flaws.. But he's already taking on Ricky Burns in Scotland(this will be his first fight out of Puerto Rico) & I would love for him to win, but I don't see him beating Burns.. & the other Jonathan Gonzalez("Mantequilla") I never liked his style & I don't see him winning any world title..
            Of all this bunche the better I like is Bomba he is geting better and better nice style. He has to work with his stamina a lil bit more but he is on his way.

            My problem with Verdejo is this... HE always wants to trade like if he was a superhero like Margarito (good chin)/ Juanma (hoorrible chin). He has great speed and power and god boxing ability but when the time comes and he is in from with another fighter stronger and faster will he know hot to box to get a W?... For example Cotto vs Torres, Cotto has to box his way to beat Torres or he was going to get KOed. So yes Verdejo needs to box more and improve his defense.

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            • #86
              [QUOTE=Toltec77;13221884]
              Originally posted by baya View Post
              dude, in cali, those wraps are legal, in ny they weren't, it's not an issue.[/QUOTE

              Well it sure was for the hopkins camp and Tito had to wrap his hands 3 times to get it right.Now that fishy if you ask me, Tito Sr. even said that it took away his power when he wasn't allowed to rap them like he dose, plus he didn't look like the Tito that had power because he was cheating at the time, but once they caught him he wasnt showing the same power as before.
              Wow Papa Trinidad said that?... please provide a Link or is BS

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              • #87
                felix trinidad is a scumbag cheat, who been wrapping his hands illegally since day one and his own father who wraps his hands have confirmed this.

                LOL

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by ElBossHogg™ View Post
                  felix trinidad is a scumbag cheat, who been wrapping his hands illegally since day one and his own father who wraps his hands have confirmed this.

                  LOL
                  my fantasy fight has always been Trinindad vs Margarito @ 147. Where I see Tito wining by death in the 2nd round if ref doesn't protect him.

                  Calling Tito a cheater?? **** you!!

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                  • #89
                    [QUOTE=Toltec77;13221948]
                    Originally posted by baya View Post

                    Well that's what you believe, but I don't, he's a cheat in my book. I just find that funny that he never hit with the same power, and you even agree to that, but guys carry that power with them, and its not like tito jumped two weight class, so I don't see that being a problem., but I see it as cheating and Tito Sr. said he always wrapped his son hands like that every fight and what was a matter with it, and he also said that it took away from Tito power when he wasn't allow to wrap them the way he would during the Hopkin fight.
                    bro, that's literally what it is, it's not what i believe, it's what happened. read up on it, you'll see the errors of your ways.

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                    • #90
                      [QUOTE=Toltec77;13221948]
                      Originally posted by baya View Post

                      Well that's what you believe, but I don't, he's a cheat in my book. I just find that funny that he never hit with the same power, and you even agree to that, but guys carry that power with them, and its not like tito jumped two weight class, so I don't see that being a problem., but I see it as cheating and Tito Sr. said he always wrapped his son hands like that every fight and what was a matter with it, and he also said that it took away from Tito power when he wasn't allow to wrap them the way he would during the Hopkin fight.
                      also, chk out biglou88's post after mine ... he kept on KO'ing dudes after the scandal who weren't first ballot HOF'ers.

                      unlike someone **cough margarito cough**

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