Matthew Macklin's Hypocrisy

[DoktorSleepless]

When did macklin turn chavez down?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...manny-pacquiao

What reason was there to avoid fighting Golovkin in Sept? There is none

Everyone deserves a gimme fight after


You're a sadistic fuck if you think people should risk their careers coming off brutal losses like that just so you could be entertained for 45 minutes. This is real life, not a video game.

We dont know but there is a tiny chance that sturm fights GOlovkin sometime, so does that mean he didnt duck him by paying of the WBA?

Unlike, Sturm, Macklin was not his mandatory for two years and literally payed off the WBA to avoid the fight. Macklin had no legal obligation to fight Golovkin as a mandatory as Sturm had. Another example, Hopkins only took the Dawson fight until he really had to because he was cornered as a mandatory.

The guy is a top ranked fighter who has fought 1 round in 15 months. What should he do, purposefully take a scrub and avoid this fight again?

If Macklin took the tuneup and then fought Golovkin in November instead, he'd have an excellent year. Better than 99% of fighters can claim. It's not like the Golovkin fight still wouldn't be there.

What obligation did GOlovkin have to take this fight?

Golovkin is the one desperate for a name opponent, not Macklin. He has more options available for him that he could eventually get to without risking another loss before then. The Murray/Barker/Lee/Macklin fights would be huge fights in the UK. And he could have even taken the Chavez fight.

Macklin accepts a Golovkin fight just half a year after Golovkin's US debut, and people still aren't satisfied. This is worst than the Donaire ducking Rigo crap.

[HeroBando]

Macklin accepts a Golovkin fight just half a year after Golovkin's US debut, and people still aren't satisfied. This is worst than the Donaire ducking Rigo crap.

It's not worse, GTFO. Donaire is p4p and a 4 division champ. Macklin is a guy still looking for his 1st belt, getting an offer from a titlist.

[DoktorSleepless]

It's not worse, GTFO. Donaire is p4p and a 4 division champ. Macklin is a guy still looking for his 1st belt, getting an offer from a titlist.

Macklin accepted the Golovkin fight HALF a year after Golovkin made his US debut. And unlike Rigo, Golovkin had zero top 10 wins on his resume in September when you guys were screaming duck. And I still stand by that the regular belt Golovkin had in September meant squat. Also, now that Macklin accepted, you guys are still bitching. Even the Cult stopped calling Donaire a duck after he accepted.

[HeroBando]

Macklin accepted the Golovkin fight HALF a year after Golovkin made his US debut. And unlike Rigo, Golovkin had zero top 10 wins on his resume in September when you guys were screaming duck. And I still stand by that the regular belt Golovkin had in September meant squat. Also, now that Macklin accepted, you guys are still bitching. Even the Cult stopped calling Donaire a duck after he accepted.

No they didn't, Norigo Duckiare is still in full effect.

Come on man, at this point I'm not pissing on Macklin, I'm arguing with you. Why the dog and pony show? You, Ray*, and Macklin all have a pretty good idea what happens fight night, hence his obvious reluctance. Don't need to give me disingenuous arguments about promoters stopping the fight from happening etc.

[DoktorSleepless]

No they didn't, Norigo Duckiare is still in full effect.

Okay, maybe Dan_Cov is still doing it, but he's a fag. I haven't really seen anyone else do it. I remember the Cult was giving Donaire respect with the announcement without the underhandness. Until the testing issue came up, at least.

Don't need to give me disingenuous arguments about promoters stopping the fight from happening etc.

I didn't give you that argument. You brought it up. I just threw it back to you.

Anyway, I'm out.

[HeroBando]

Okay, maybe Dan_Cov is still doing it, but he's a fag. I haven't really seen anyone else do it. I remember the Cult was giving Donaire respect with the announcement without he underhandness. Until the testing issue came up, at least.


I didn't give you that argument. You brought it up. I just threw it back to you.

Anyway, I'm out.

You implied Lou had something to do with his passing last year (among a slew of other excuses you prepared), and just now wondered why the hell would Lou wanna match his fighter at all with GGG. Well, GGG's penciled in to headline via HBO on an LDB show, and Lou has a top contender whose long set plans for early summer date with Chavez just fell through.

[DoktorSleepless]

You implied Lou had something to do with his passing last year

When did I imply that? Where? I specifically said "if" to turn that hypothetical argument you brought up against you. I never said Dibella controlled Macklin. You did.

and just now wondered why the hell would Lou wanna match his fighter at all with GGG.

Yes, of course I thought Lou wouldn't prefer it, but how does that disprove what I was arguing? The point I was making was that Dibella was not controlling Macklin and that Macklin wanted the fight despite Lou's wishes and so it happened. (and thus further proof that he wasn't ducking Golovkin)

Macklin had a chance to fight to fight Chavez, the biggest name in the middleweigth division and propably top 5 in the entire sport, and Macklin said no. Even if it was at a 164 catchweight, do you think that "bum" chavez who lost 11.5 rounds is a more difficult fight than Golovkin?

[HeroBando]

When did I imply that? Where? I specifically said "if" to turn that hypothetical argument you brought up against you. I never said Dibella controlled Macklin. You did.


Yes, of course I thought Lou wouldn't prefer it, but how does that disprove what I was arguing? The point I was making that Dibella was not controlling Macklin and that Macklin wanted the fight despite Lou's wishes and so it happened. (and thus further proof that he wasn't ducking Golovkin)

Macklin had a chance to fight to fight Chavez, the biggest name in the middleweigth division and propably top 5 in the entire sport, and Macklin said no. Even if it was at a 164 catchweight, do you think that "bum" chavez who lost 11.5 rounds is a more difficult fight than Golovkin?

I see, it was a hypothetical, based on the questionable premise that his promoter did not want that fight for him at the time. I don't know why he was compelled to "defend" his choice in the press then.

Anyway, lets call peace. I'll keep Macklin out of my GGG duck posts now that's signed, obviously. I fully understand his predicament, but it's the nature of the sport.