it's crazy how people don't seem to understand that outside of margarito and i guess williams most of those fighters didn't want anything to do with floyd
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Originally posted by Jc8804 View PostI agree. In their cases they were all trying to make the biggest
Fights possible, while Floyd tries to set up the easiest or. Over hyped. Mis matchesOriginally posted by ADP02 View PostYes he specifically called out Floyd.
He did fight Margarito but was Williams was avoided by many? Yes!
The difference with the other guys you mentioned is that they were in many other wars. So I can't ever ever say Cotto is a ducker nor Margarito nor Mosley. I gave Floyd many chances but after a while you need to call it for what it is.
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Originally posted by letsgobrady View Postwilliams asked to fight cotto right after he beat margarito so i guess cotto ducked him and when margarito beat cotto williams called out margarito so i guess margarito duckked williams too.margarito fought williams because he was going to get stripped of his tittle if not margarito was not planning on fighting williams
I believe that is when Cotto was fighting Mosley. Which was a tough fight for Cotto as well. Then after that Williams was facing Quintana back to back while Cotto fought another tough opponent that he lost to named Margarito.
Cotto may have ducked Williams. I don't know because Cotto had a rough skid after the Mosley fight.
The point is that these other names are not known to duck fighters. Just look at their resume. They fought wars while Floyd took a long vacation.
Trust me, I would have no problem naming anyone a ducker if they deserved to be called so.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostLOL discussion over. Exposed as hypocrites who are only putting Floyd on a pedestal.
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Originally posted by Philantro View PostImagine Floyd meeting…
Antonio Margarito, 2007
Miguel Cotto, 2007 and 2008
Paul Williams, 2008 and 2009
Manny Pacquiao, 2009 and 2010
Sergio Martinez, 2011 and 2012
Erislandy Lara, 2012, and
Canelo Alvarez, 2013 and 2014
…he would have been a Top 5 ATG on all cards, even with a few losses.
...Originally posted by -Kev- View Post2008 Paul Williams was avenging his loss to Quintana, and then moved up to JMW and MW. By 2009 he was already a MW, 2010 he was a MW too. So I don't know why you're mentioning Williams in the years that you are mentioning him. I can go along with the thread, but in an intelligent manner. Let's say he ducked Williams in 2007.Originally posted by Philantro View PostIn 2008 Paul Williams knocked out Quintana in the first round and then he continued with Andy Kolle and Verno Phillips the same year. He was well and ready for Floyd at 147p in 2008. Paul Williams called out Floyd 2007-2010 at any weight, including 147p. I cannot imagine anyone being louder and clearer than Paul doing just that. That you didn’t hear him do it is amazing because everyone else I know heard him loud and clear.Originally posted by -Kev- View PostWould you... add Williams as a fighter Cotto, Margarito, Mosley ducked too? Because he didn't specifically called out Mayweather and only Mayweather. He called out Cotto, he called out Margarito after beating Cotto, he called out Mosley when Mosley was feeling brave calling every one out after beating Margarito, and he called out Mayweather.
Your answer is confusing for me. Are you still claiming that Floyd didn't duck Paul Williams 2008-2010?
As I said earlier, Paul called out Floyd at any weight 2007-2010 as loud and clear as he could.
Paul fought at different weights mainly because he was avoided by almost everyone. However, Floyd was the fighter he most wanted to fight 2007-2010. He openly said it and everyone who is interested in boxing knows it. Do you know it?
.Last edited by Philantro; 03-30-2013, 10:56 PM.
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Your talking to a brick wall my friend. You got guys on hear naming any and everybody they can think of, when the only guy that Floyd really didn't want any part of is P-Will. Nobody want any part of a 6'2" WW at the time. All these guys conveniently leave out that P-Will called out Floyd and Pac, the same as Sergio did. All the guys that are Top Rank weren't gonna happen, and everyone knows this, and the to all the guys that haven't been watching boxing that long, that keep bringing up Mosley, I suggest you look at Mosley vs Vargas 2, in 2006 and watch alittle tap dancing by Mosley as Larry Merchant of all people presses the issue of why he won't fight Mayweather when Mayweather was calling him out.
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Originally posted by letsgobrady View Postit's crazy how people don't seem to understand that outside of margarito and i guess williams most of those fighters didn't want anything to do with floyd
.Last edited by Philantro; 03-31-2013, 07:33 AM.
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Originally posted by Pacdbest View PostSleeping Manny or manny's sparring partner Guerrero! Who u want Floyd? U make $30M easy with Guererro! But You'll make more than $70M with Sleeping pac! Who'll u fight Mr Mayweather?
"Ahh let me talk to Haymon. He said I can get $30M for Devon Alexander!" HBO said, "No way"! Haymon said," Ok Guerrero for the same Money" HBO said "No way. But I'll give u $70M to face Pacquiao!" " Ok then I'll go to Showtime ! F@ck U HBO!!"---Floyd.Originally posted by mesher View Post
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