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  • Ray*
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    #21
    Originally posted by ILLuminato
    But if you read the articles about this...it says Morales can't fight anywhere in the U.S., implying that this includes non-USADA involved boxing matches. Does that make sense?
    He can't fight in the U.S because he failed a drug test under the USADA and under the terms of the testing contract he signed with them he would be legible to a 2 year ban, this is why I like and prefer the USADA but the problem we have in boxing is we don't have one organisation like most other sports do, if we did then boxing (Pro) can go under the anti-doping testing organisation. Which means you get ban at least 2 years if you fail a test.

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    • gingeralbino
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      #22
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Haha yeah I don't like to judge but its like do you even need to test a guy like that? He's a unit.





      It always made me laugh how he is so massive yet hes a really well spoken guy with a deep posh English accent. Totally the opposite of what you'd probably expect.
      Yeah i was shocked when he got banned lol

      he was one of my fave domestic fighters to watch, dont get me wrong, i always knew he was awful, but he was fun to watch. He was a wrecking ball with no technique and a ****e chin. Cant help but enjoy that!

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        #23
        Originally posted by ILLuminato
        How ridiculous is this comparison?

        Erik Morales gets KTFO'ed and had questionable PED usage and he gets 2 years from USADA, who have used Floyd Mayweather like a puppet to increase revenue and usurp authority over the sporting world in the past couple of years...

        MEANWHILE, Mickey Bey gets caught with one of the highest testosterone levels of all time, but in a 3-2 decision gets banned for only three months, a non-suspension. To be fair, the 2 dissenters wanted a heavier punishment. But where is USADA on this? Nowhere to be found. The limit on testosterone ratio is like 6-1. Bey's was 33-1!

        If you think I'm being facetious, watch the video of the Mickey Bey fight, as a matter of fact Bey probably should've had a criminal investigation like the Luis Resto fight or even Margarito against Cotto. That's how bad it was.
        It's a total joke, since fighters now a days fight 2-3 times a year anyway 3 months is nothing.

        I think it's funny, Golden Boy Promotions is supposedly anti-doping advocates you would think they'd be more stern about boxers in their stable coming up dirty, but they let the Morales fight go on and Bey with no further repercussions.

        Not surprising though. Peterson after coming dirty has since been signed by GBP and has big fights handed to him already.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ILLuminato
          I keep asking this question because I really want to know: if the USADA can ban Morales from U.S. fights even if they're not involved, why can't they have jurisdiction over ALL fights? I'm anti-USADA because I think they're a bunch of corrupt, power hungry cronies, so I'm kind of just hypothesizing.
          Good question...They are essentially a sanctioning body for the Olympics, not for the sport of boxing in general so I find it odd how they could enforce this on Morales. That being said, could Morales fight in the US if it wasn't sanctioned by the USADA? That's the uncertainty of this and any other organization (ex. World Boxing Council, International Boxing Federation, etc.) that applies rules and regulations to a boxing match/card.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ILLuminato
            Look closely at the fight. It's not just the KO, it's the superhuman reflexes, and the crazy counterpunches. Even the punches have no effect on Bey in the fight.

            I keep asking this question because I really want to know: if the USADA can ban Morales from U.S. fights even if they're not involved, why can't they have jurisdiction over ALL fights? I'm anti-USADA because I think they're a bunch of corrupt, power hungry cronies, so I'm kind of just hypothesizing.
            Because USADA doesn't test all fights (fighters). They only deal with those who they are testing and have signed contracts with.

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              #26
              Why isn;t Pederson Banned? That seems to be a no brainer.

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                #27
                Does Bey train at Floyds gym or the gym Floyd Sr is working at?

                Floyd seems to ride pretty hard against cheaters of all backgrounds, hopefully he'll shun this piece of ****.

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                  #28
                  Bey wasn't tested by USADA.

                  You can't compare the two situations.

                  Morales got popped by USADA, given a toothless 2 year ban because technically USADA has no authority over the US boxing commissions. Nobody knows how the various state athletic commissions will view/react to USADA's ban. They make consider it, they may ignore it, no one knows.

                  NSAC gave Bey a ridiculous 3 month suspension and Chavez Jr. an equally ridiculous 9 month suspension.

                  Compare that with British fighter John Donnelly, who was caught by UKAD (the UK Anti-Doping agency, similar to USADA, follows WADA guidelines), testing positive for *******. The difference being UKAD actually has authority over there. UKAD crushed Donnelly with a 2 year ban.

                  If anything NSAC is the bad guy here. Their testing is much weaker than organizations like USADA and VADA. And even when their testing does catch people, NSAC hands out much more lenient suspensions. If USADA actually had authority and had tested Bey, they probably would have slapped him with a 2 year ban as well.





                  Originally posted by ILLuminato
                  How ridiculous is this comparison?

                  Erik Morales gets KTFO'ed and had questionable PED usage and he gets 2 years from USADA, who have used Floyd Mayweather like a puppet to increase revenue and usurp authority over the sporting world in the past couple of years...

                  MEANWHILE, Mickey Bey gets caught with one of the highest testosterone levels of all time, but in a 3-2 decision gets banned for only three months, a non-suspension. To be fair, the 2 dissenters wanted a heavier punishment. But where is USADA on this? Nowhere to be found. The limit on testosterone ratio is like 6-1. Bey's was 33-1!

                  If you think I'm being facetious, watch the video of the Mickey Bey fight, as a matter of fact Bey probably should've had a criminal investigation like the Luis Resto fight or even Margarito against Cotto. That's how bad it was.

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                    #29
                    Considering what they tested positive for, Morales' punishment was way too harsh and Bey's was way too lenient. The hypocrisy and inconsistency of the boxing world on full display.

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                      #30
                      Again Mickey Bey was not tested by the USADA, Morales signed a contract with them and under the terms they have the power to ban him or his opponent if they fail a test for any of the forbidden item on the list that they were given.

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