Is this statement true:A GREAT big man will beat a GREAT little man

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  • Yoan
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    Is this statement true:A GREAT big man will beat a GREAT little man

    Do you believe in this statement?

    I'm not talking about Rocky Marciano vs Tyson Fury. Or Paul Williams vs Roberto Duran.

    I'm talking about the true elites.

    Lennox Lewis will beat Rocky Marciano (Great Big over Great Small)
    Wladimir Klitschko will beat Jack Dempsey (Great Big over Great Small)
    Tommy Hearns will beat Floyd Mayweather Jr (Great Big over Great Small)

    There are obviously exceptions to the rule, when a small fighter is build and created in such a devastating fashion that he transcends size with his style and method.

    Ala: Mike Tyson

    But overall speaking.
    Do you agree
    A GREAT BIG MAN ALWAYS BEAT A GREAT LITTLE MAN.
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    Yes. A great big fighter will always beat a great little fighter
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    Yes. The vast majority of the time it's like this
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    No. Styles make fights is more accurate
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    No. Being big can contribute but it can also be a downfall

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    • GrandpaBernard
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      #3
      yep if the great small guy's style and skill can't overcome the size difference

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      • Yoan
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        #4
        Originally posted by Jloro
        No. Being big can contribute but it can also be a downfall
        Yes but if you pit all the Great-Very Good small heavyweights against all the super heavyweights of elite talent. What would happen? With the exception of Tyson, the likes of Marciano and Dempsey will be severely out gunned by Lewis-Wlad-Vitali-Bowe.

        Once again, this is talking about elite talent. Best night of every fighter.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Yoan
          Yes but if you pit all the Great-Very Good small heavyweights against all the super heavyweights of elite talent. What would happen? With the exception of Tyson, the likes of Marciano and Dempsey will be severely out gunned by Lewis-Wlad-Vitali-Bowe.

          Once again, this is talking about elite talent. Best night of every fighter.
          well It is right but like you said with some exceptions. Too bad we couldn't ever test it out lol

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            #6
            Originally posted by Yoan
            Do you believe in this statement?

            I'm not talking about Rocky Marciano vs Tyson Fury. Or Paul Williams vs Roberto Duran.

            I'm talking about the true elites.

            Lennox Lewis will beat Rocky Marciano (Great Big over Great Small)
            Wladimir Klitschko will beat Jack Dempsey (Great Big over Great Small)
            Tommy Hearns will beat Floyd Mayweather Jr (Great Big over Great Small)

            There are obviously exceptions to the rule, when a small fighter is build and created in such a devastating fashion that he transcends size with his style and method.

            Ala: Mike Tyson

            But overall speaking.
            Do you agree
            A GREAT BIG MAN ALWAYS BEAT A GREAT LITTLE MAN.

            Mike Tyson wasnt really that small. He was a heavyweight when he was a teenager. He just had trex arms.

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            • Yoan
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              Roy Jones Jr had some great insight into it as to why he didn't want to go up and fight Lewis. I remember watching him doing an interview in the early 2000's as part of a broadcasting crew and I recall him saying something like

              "A great fighter fighting another great fighter will not under prepare. A great fighter fighting another great fighter will train for that fight as if it was the fight of his life.(Because most likely it will be) So take away the upset, under prepared, no motivation factors and you are left with the best versions of each man. What happens is size comes into play between fighters of equal skills.





              I agree.

              Like for instance take Chris Byrd. Now he's a 200 pound fighter with good skills. He fought Ike who's a 245 Pound fighter with good skills. Those two guys are both good fighters, you will think that Byrd's style will counter Ike's based on what we seen, but it didn't ..what end up happening is Byrd got out muscled and caught on the ropes time after time until Ike got him with a explosive combination and Byrd was out.

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              • Yoan
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                #8
                Originally posted by el***
                Mike Tyson wasnt really that small. He was a heavyweight when he was a teenager. He just had trex arms.
                Ya. I 100% agree. Tyson was a legit heavyweight. Height isn't really a factor in certain cases. I was just using Tyson against the biggest of the elite bigs as an example.

                Like Tyson isn't small compare to say Ali.. but Tyson is still a small fighter compare to say a 245 Pound Lewis or a 244 Pound Wladimir.

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                • kiDynamite92
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Yoan
                  Ya. I 100% agree. Tyson was a legit heavyweight. Height isn't really a factor in certain cases. I was just using Tyson against the biggest of the elite bigs as an example.

                  Like Tyson isn't small compare to say Ali.. but Tyson is still a small fighter compare to say a 245 Pound Lewis or a 244 Pound Wladimir.
                  No Tyson wasn't at all that big, he was big at a young age but as he got older he didn't really grow that much. He actually fought in 91- category when in the amateurs.

                  And no that statement is incorrect. Guys like Ali, Tyson, Frazier, Holyfield, Louis in their prime would have schooled any of these big super heavyweights.

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                  • WILL2WIN
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                    Ummm bigger has alot to do with being able to withstand more and hit harder yes,your only talkin like 20 pounds difference or there between mike and lennox lol but it wasnt the size difference it was the height. But if you think Jack Dempsey could get in there and pop lennox lewis around the same way he did Jess Willard i dont think so,those 70+ pounds of natural big man frame are gonna mean alot.

                    The correct statement is a good big man will always beat a good litle man and that statement is true,do you think you could put Floyd in the ring with ali i meant htyre both great fighters but the natural size diffeence and strenth between ali and floyd or bhop or any middleweight vs true heavyweight of the last 30 years would be a little too much for the smaller man,sure roy beat ruiz but i mean were talking bout Roy Jones Jr and John Ruiz lol how did the graet bob foster do against the bigger boys when he fought them and foster had height and power for a light heavy.

                    i agree 100% that for the most paart 99% of the time a good big man will always beat a good little man yes.

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