So if it wasn't an uncalled KD, why was Bradley chicken dancing?
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Agreed, I've watched the sequence over and over, as well as the HBO replay on frame by frame, Tim's legs are gone, he's collapsing forward *into* Ruslan, and his forward momentum is towards a faceplant. Bradley was going down, period.
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Its not as unequivocal as you put it. The ref has a responsibility to make sure the fighter is in a position to defend himself. I have seen fights stopped for less than what bradley did in the first round. As a fan I'm glad he didnt because we saw a great fight. For me it was a KD but I dont have a problem with the ref not calling it, he interpreted it his way, but if he wanted to stick strictly to the letter of the law he could have stopped the fight numerous times. There is no absolute right or wrong in this, and to say there is to to put refs beyond error. This isnt and will never be the case.he cant ignore the shove if hes already called it.....he saw it and he called it immediately which is why he didn't start counting.....ref is clearly better than you because he saw that Bradleys body was coming up until ruslan leaned on him......this is not a discussion about bradley's damage, its about if a punch sent him down....he was very very hurt from a punch 3 seconds before the knockdown, but the referee ruled that the action of going down was caused by ruslan leaning on bradley, yes he didnt have his legs under him, but he was not sent down by a punch, he did plenty of chicken dances in other rounds without going down...
you wouldve stopped that fight in the 6th round....that tells me youre a **** ref because bradley did just fine in rounds 7-10....Comment
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the rules is very simple man ropes can't keep you up means you can't hang on to the ropes to avoid going down ie 03:33
if you get hit and you stagger all the way to the ropes its not a KD unless you hold on or part of your body goes outside the ropesComment
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It is the 6th that you're talking about. I made a thread with a screenshot and the actual video. Bradley is literally sitting on the bottom rope, not the middle rope, the BOTTOM rope and not responding to punches. Similar to the DeMarco vs Molina stoppage.Originally posted by techliamQuote:
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he cant ignore the shove if hes already called it.....he saw it and he called it immediately which is why he didn't start counting.....ref is clearly better than you because he saw that Bradleys body was coming up until ruslan leaned on him......this is not a discussion about bradley's damage, its about if a punch sent him down....he was very very hurt from a punch 3 seconds before the knockdown, but the referee ruled that the action of going down was caused by ruslan leaning on bradley, yes he didnt have his legs under him, but he was not sent down by a punch, he did plenty of chicken dances in other rounds without going down...
you wouldve stopped that fight in the 6th round....that tells me youre a **** ref because bradley did just fine in rounds 7-10....
Well firstly, the ref called the first "slip". When he stumbled back on the floor, the ref can call that a knockdown.
Judging my ability with hindsight? Please there's so many other ****** posts on here I can waste my time on. It was the round where they were both swinging for 20 seconds straight, and Bradley got the worst of it. (not sure if it's round 6) You don't know what damage Bradley has. I personally thought that was very dangerous refereeing.
After he finally got off the rope you could see him clearly hurt AGAIN.
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So you agree in the 6th round where Bradley was sitting on the bottom rope and his ass was sticking OUTSIDE the ropes its a KD?Originally posted by PhenomQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikhnienko
Like with 35 seconds left in the 6th round when Provodnikov blasts Bradley with a left hook and Bradley sits on the ropes which kept him up? Without them he would have sat flat on his ass, the 2nd KD that wasn't called.
the rules is very simple man ropes can't keep you up means you can't hang on to the ropes to avoid going down ie 03:33
if you get hit and you stagger all the way to the ropes its not a KD unless you hold on or part of your body goes outside the ropes
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I watched the fight twice and If I'm not mistaken he was leaning on the ropes don't remember seeing him hanging on to the ropes or any part of his body sticking outside the ropes to keep him upComment
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It is, yet you don't understand it. If you would have gone down had the ropes not been there its a knockdown....that can apply to a myriad of circumstances, not just holding it with your arms like you're trying to pass off. Bradley would have been sitting flat on his ass with 35 seconds left in the 6th had he not sat on the bottom rope...which kept him up.Comment
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This is true.It is, yet you don't understand it. If you would have gone down had the ropes not been there its a knockdown....that can apply to a myriad of circumstances, not just holding it with your arms like you're trying to pass off. Bradley would have been sitting flat on his ass with 35 seconds left in the 6th had he not sat on the bottom rope...which kept him up.Comment

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