Comments Thread For: Klitschko is Not Bothered By Critics of Pianeta Clash

[Jedi Vader]

Lennox would have all sort of problems with Wlad. No way Lennox's chin would survive the right hand - so he would need to be very cautious. On the other hand Wlad would need to be very cautious not to repeat Vitali's mistake. He would need to box as long as possible before turning the fight into to brawling and inside fighting.

What Lennox Lewis & Wladimir Klitschko Learned about Each Other on the Set for Ocean’s Eleven:

Yeah. You know it’s funny you mention that. Some people today, especially younger boxers and people, they see Ocean’s Eleven and they say, “Mr. Steward! We saw you in the movie Ocean’s Eleven, and you were not with Wladimir! You were against Wladimir!” (laughs)

So it’s confusing to the kids when they see the movie, because some of them all of their lives have seen me in the corner with Wladimir Klitschko. So when we were doing the movie, there was a lot of anxiety among us, because Lennox used to always ask me, much like Wladimir does today, “Emanuel, who is coming up that I have to kind of look out for? Who’s going to be the next big challenge for me?”

And I told Lennox, “Wladimir Klitschko—the young kid who won the Olympics in Atlanta. That’s the kid that I think is the best talent out there”. I always said that about him.

So then Wladimir gets knocked out by Corrie Sanders. It was only a couple of weeks right after that, that we were in a training camp in the Poconos. So I’m wrapping Lennox’s hands and he says, “Manny? You see the young Klitschko boy who you’re so high on get knocked out a couple of weeks ago?”

I said, “Yep!”

He said, “Are you still that high on him?”

I said, “Yep! He’s the best heavyweight prospect out there, Lennox. He will dominate the heavyweight division after you”.

I always believed in Wladimir, but based on the fact that I always believed in Wladimir, when we actually shot those scenes there, and he and Wladimir came in the ring, that was a little strange. There was some uneasiness and everybody was kind of sizing each other up, because we thought at that time, then at least because Wladimir was undefeated, that was going to be our biggest future opponent.

Now what Wladimir has told me afterwards when we trained, he said, “When we did the scene, when he was moving around Lennox was like jabbing and moving around, and he would blink his eyes when he would jab”. He said, “I remember that, and that stood out”.

I said, “Believe it or not, Lennox did that a lot when he would box”. And Wladimir caught on to that right away.

He said, “When he jabbed he would like blink his eye a lot”.

I said, “Yep”.

Lennox didn’t really pick up anything too much on Wladimir, but Wladimir picked up on that about Lennox. If they had ever fought, and Wladimir had never lost, and Lennox had fought him—it would have been a very, very intriguing fight I would say, because the best talent between the two, all the way around skill and coordination now that he’s learned got his footwork down, is still Wladimir. But still the best of the two, I would have to say was still at this stage unless Wladimir gets a chance to prove it, would have to have been Lennox here because Lennox did what he had to do. When he had to make adjustments he did them right there.

You can’t tell what would happen because Wladimir has such unbelievable one-punch punching power, unlike anybody I have ever trained. With most fighters you have to get someone hurt a little bit, stagger them, knock them down, and then they finish them. Wladimir could fight, and I saw him do that so much in the gym, even with 20 ounce gloves. Just out of nowhere where nobody has even been hurt, and just the lights go out and guys go to sleep. Just like Eddy Chambers with one grazing punch, Ray Austin, I mean he’s the most devastating one-punch fighter I’ve ever worked with, and you don’t even see his punches. So at no time are you safe with Wladimir. He may be boring sometimes, but anytime with ten, fifteen, five seconds left sometimes—he can knock someone out.

But sometimes he gets so comfortable controlling a fight with just his jab, and it ends up almost like a game. He just settles down and gets in a comfort zone, and it’s hard to get him out of that. Whereas Lennox is a little bit more explosive, he’s maybe not as super talented as Wladimir is, but he would do a variety of things. Sometimes that just meant going out and being really physical, and just losing all of your boxing talent and just go out there and just brawl and tear a guy up, and Lennox knew how to do it. So it would have been, to me having worked with both of them, a very interesting fight. I couldn’t even say exactly who would win. I can tell you the strong points of both fighters and that would be it.

We’d have to sit down and see what would happen, though. Lennox could come out, and being almost as big as Wladimir, could make it a very physical fight. Then Wladimir has a little bit better footwork with his in and out rhythm, and he has that unbelievable short and accurate one-punch punching power that could have gotten Lennox or anybody in trouble, at any point in the fight. It’s one of those fights that I as a fan would love to see myself.

It’s funny. I started training Wladimir after Lennox beat Vitali, I got a call and with Wladimir, I called him often then and still do today, I still call him “Lennox” a lot, and it’s an accident because of the verbal sound of Lennox and Wladimir, but also the fact they both remind me of each other, and the fact that both of them ask so many questions and they are so exactly detailed. They both like to play chess, which I do not like. Even with Lennox we look at him now as the last great exciting heavyweight, but back then people forget that Lennox was called being “too cautious” and “too boring” and all of that, much like Wladimir today. But they remind me so much of each other in terms of the details and their physical size.

There you go. I have it 50:50.

Let's see what Lewis himself thinks, shall we?

Lennox Lewis: "Wladimir I Would Have Knocked Out: Probably in the Middle Rounds"

According to a recent interview on BoxingScene.com, Lennox Lewis stated that he would knock Wladimir Klitschko out had they ever fought.

"I am a more complete boxer than Wladimir. In most of his fights, he proposes very little. I have much more in my repertoire. I work to the body; I get close to my opponent and throw uppercuts. Against Haye he showed no infighting, and only grabbed. And I saw no punches to the body. I can break the will of my opponent in the ring and I think a little faster. Wladimir I would have knocked out - probably in the middle rounds," Lewis said.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Talk is cheap.

While truthfully, I do agree with Lennox, his retirement after the Vitali Klitschko fight raised many eyebrows. Instead of giving Vitali a rematch, Lennox decided to call it quits. Since his retirement, Lennox has been talking to the media a lot, discussing who out of the current active fighters he would have knocked out.

In his prime, I think Lennox would have knocked Wladimir out. Lennox was way more experienced and more aggressive than Wladimir is nowadays. Emanuel Steward was able to make Lennox throw a full spectrum of punches in his fights, making his very effective against any and all kinds of competitors.

Thinking about their ‘would be’ fight, I do think that Lennox would have to try and wear Wladimir out first, and do it carefully. There is no point in the fight where Wlad’s straight right is not hazardous, and where Wlad’s jab is not constantly peppering his opponent’s head.

For Lennox, this would pose a very big challenge, thus him and Steward would have to come up with a way to walk through the jab and get closer where Wlad’s right hand was not longer a threat. At that point in time, Lennox would be set for wreaking havoc on Wlad’s body without much concern, as Wlad’s ability to throw body shots is non-existent.

Who knows, maybe with the way things are in the heavyweight division, Lennox could stand behind his words and challenge Wlad?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/776143-lennox-lewis-wladimir-i-would-have-knocked-out-probably-in-the-middle-rounds

[Szef]

Let's see what Lewis himself thinks, shall we?

Lennox Lewis: "Wladimir I Would Have Knocked Out: Probably in the Middle Rounds"



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...-middle-rounds

Wait a minute so you're telling me one of the fighters we're talking about said he would beat the other one? That's just shocking.


Of course, opinion of a guy who trained both Lennox and Wlad doesn't matter. Lennox said he'd beat Klitschko and that is final

[DreamFighter]

I was wondering why he posted Lennox's opinion, which is just as biased as a boxer's trainer.

Maybe he is taking the piss out of the OP choosing a biased trainer's opinion, which is equally ******? Which might explain his smilie.

Perhaps Jedi Vader might elaborate.

[ShamrockXpress]

For as much as the kbros get hate on here people really do like riding lennoxs d1ck. I'm a big Lennox fan, he was the great British hope, but let's not split hairs, his biggest win was against a former cruiser weight who had been getting called shot since he was knocked out by a shot rid**** bowe 4 years earlier. Yes at the time he was coming off the Tyson and Moorer wins but with hindsight we no Tyson hadn't been himself since before prison and Moorer was finished. In his next fight he got a gift against the quiet man and was then beaten in the rematch

[Simurgh]

Wait a minute so you're telling me one of the fighters we're talking about said he would beat the other one? That's just shocking.


Of course, opinion of a guy who trained both Lennox and Wlad doesn't matter. Lennox said he'd beat Klitschko and that is final

LOL!

We should ask Tyson Fury what he thinks

[Szef]

I was wondering why he posted Lennox's opinion, which is just as biased as a boxer's trainer.

Maybe he is taking the piss out of the OP choosing a biased trainer's opinion, which is equally ******? Which might explain his smilie.

Perhaps Jedi Vader might elaborate.

Manny, man who trained both those fighters and a guy who really knew his job just expressed his opinion. I chose to trust a man who spend thousands of hours with both Wlad and Lennox. Those opinions about Steward being biased beacuse he was Klitschko trainer at the time are pathetic. So do you think if Steward would've said that Lennox beats Wlad he would just fired him? That's ridicoulous

[DreamFighter]

Manny, man who trained both those fighters and a guy who really knew his job just expressed his opinion. I chose to trust a man who spend thousands of hours with both Wlad and Lennox. Those opinions about Steward being biased beacuse he was Klitschko trainer at the time are pathetic.

they are the direct opposite of pathetic, they are inf act completely accurate and constitutes basic common sense in anyone except a serial moron who doesn't know how to get on with people - consider -

If you diss someone in your workplace, do you think you wont get comeuppance for it? How long will your employment last and how comfortable will it be working there for you once you say **** about them?

If you big them up, do you think you will get support and continued employment from them for it?

Its a no brainer.

[Jam Jars]

For as much as the kbros get hate on here people really do like riding lennoxs d1ck. I'm a big Lennox fan, he was the great British hope, but let's not split hairs, his biggest win was against a former cruiser weight who had been getting called shot since he was knocked out by a shot rid**** bowe 4 years earlier. Yes at the time he was coming off the Tyson and Moorer wins but with hindsight we no Tyson hadn't been himself since before prison and Moorer was finished. In his next fight he got a gift against the quiet man and was then beaten in the rematch

Holyfield is an ATG @ HW. Trying to dismiss the win because he fought at CW before is idiotic. Lewis has one of the best resumes in heavyweight history, Wlad's is garbage.

[Simurgh]

Holyfield is an ATG @ HW. Trying to dismiss the win because he fought at CW before is idiotic. Lewis has one of the best resumes in heavyweight history, Wlad's is garbage.

[DreamFighter]

LOL!

We should ask Tyson Fury what he thinks

You and your chap friend may not have realised that Jedi was making exactly THAT joke.

He was taking the mick out of you by asking someone biased as hell.


You seem to be recycling a joke that's been aimed at you, and you've not noticed it was aimed at you first.