Negotiations for Taylor-Wright break down

[Easy-E]

alright psychopath, the first bolded part is for you:

Shaw: The fight's off!
January 10, 2006

By Karl Freitag

"Lou DiBella called everybody yesterday and told them that the fight's off, so the fight's off," Gary Shaw, promoter of WBC #1 ranked Winky Wright told *********.com today. "I don't know if there's going to be a purse bid [the WBC has a purse bid scheduled for January 30]. He says he's not going. He said the fight's off. If the fight's off and he's not going, then Jermain Taylor would lose his title."

If Taylor is stripped of his WBC belt, Wright would fight the highest available contender for the vacant title. At the moment WBC #2 is Felix Sturm, but Sturm is slated to challenge Maselino Masoe for the vacant WBA "regular" title. #3 is Kelly Pavlik, Sam Soliman is #4 and Ike Quartey (also promoted by DiBella) is #5. Taylor would still have his WBA super champion title and the WBO belt.

Shaw confirmed that HBO's top offer of $5 million but stated he could make the fight happen."We'll give Jermain the $4 million, see if they'll take it. They won't take it. I'll give Jermain $4,050,000 -- $50,000 more." Shaw said he could make the economics work with the site fee and the international TV rights in addition to the HBO money.

DiBella made an offer to Wright for $3 million, but Shaw is seeking parity. "If you look at it, Winky could say, 'I beat Shane Mosley twice and shut out Trinidad, I think this is 60/40 my way. I was fighting as a pro, undefeated when Jermain was an amateur.' He's smart enough to know that this is a true 50/50 fight. One of these guys is not bigger than the other.

Shaw added, "Lou's got his ego on the line. I think he's hurting Jermain because no matter what,until he goes through Winky Wright he will not be considered the best middleweight in the world. I don't care if he goes to some men's clothing store to get ten more belts. It's about [Jermain], if he goes through Winky Wright there's no question, he's the single best middleweight in the world."

With Pacquiao-Morales, Corrales-Castillo and Lacy-Calzaghe, Shaw is involved in many of the big fights taking place in early 2005. "I'm not a one trick pony," he commented. "DiBella's a one trick pony. Maybe he's afraid to fight Winky because if he loses Jermain, he has nothing else. What's he have? That's where he's coming from. But, to call everybody and say that the fight is off. This isn't when he ran HBO giving out 80 million dollars. Now he's trying to make a dollar. That's not how you conduct yourself. That's like if you talk to someone and you're in the middle of negotiations and all of s sudden you just blow, I mean, why? What do you achieve? You take it all the way until you realize there's an impasse and at that impasse is when you say 'obviously we can't do this deal,' and both sides move on. What he did was amateur hour."

sorry gary shaw, but winky couldnt say that
taylor offered winky 55/45, and wright is crazy not to take that. if he qualms about fighting in little rock, than he shouldnt have said he would fight taylor there in the first place.
gary shaw is embrassing himself

[psychopath]

DiBella made an offer to Wright for $3 million, but Shaw is seeking parity. "If you look at it, Winky could say, 'I beat Shane Mosley twice and shut out Trinidad, I think this is 60/40 my way. I was fighting as a pro, undefeated when Jermain was an amateur.' He's smart enough to know that this is a true 50/50 fight. One of these guys is not bigger than the other.

Yeah read it again. Look at that arguement.

60/40 his way because he has been fighting as a Pro undefeated when Jermain was an amateur. And who's got the belt?

Shaw added, "Lou's got his ego on the line. I think he's hurting Jermain because no matter what, until he goes through Winky Wright he will not be considered the best middleweight in the world. I don't care if he goes to some men's clothing store to get ten more belts. It's about [Jermain], if he goes through Winky Wright there's no question, he's the single best middleweight in the world."

Yeah right. Taylor not's gonna be considered the best middle weight until he fights Winky. That's just according to Shaw.

You know what? That's lame, very lame because soon people will realize that the fight didn't happen because Winky and his team is twisting the arm of Taylor and DiBella to get lion's share and control of negotiation. People are not that dumb not to see that. Even if Winky has a 100 victories under his belt, he remains the challenger so he and his team cannot dictate.

[psychopath]

sorry gary shaw, but winky couldnt say that
taylor offered winky 55/45, and wright is crazy not to take that. if he qualms about fighting in little rock, than he shouldnt have said he would fight taylor there in the first place.
gary shaw is embrassing himself

That's right Bro. exactly! Shaw and Winky is just embarrassing themselves. After all the press releases and blah blah blah . . . now comes ton of bull****s. They should have shut their mouths and waited for the purse bidding.

[Dirt E Gomez]

That's right Bro. exactly! Shaw and Winky is just embarrassing themselves. After all the press releases and blah blah blah . . . now comes ton of bull****s. They should have shut their mouths and waited for the purse bidding.

I don't think so at all. I honestly think Winky just came to his senses. He can let Taylor fight some random scrub as a tune up in his home town, which in turn might even draw more fans to their fight. Meanwhile Winky can stay prepared and then fight Taylor in an even ground setting. It's not as though a major robbery would occurr in AK, but why risk the close rounds. He most likely realized his mistake, and rather than just straight pull out so he can be mocked when he can just ask for terms that wont be accepted.

In the end it wont even matter though. This fight will happen within a year, and when it does I'll laugh when they announce the new middleweight champ.

[psychopath]

I don't think so at all. I honestly think Winky just came to his senses. He can let Taylor fight some random scrub as a tune up in his home town, which in turn might even draw more fans to their fight. Meanwhile Winky can stay prepared and then fight Taylor in an even ground setting. It's not as though a major robbery would occurr in AK, but why risk the close rounds. He most likely realized his mistake, and rather than just straight pull out so he can be mocked when he can just ask for terms that wont be accepted.

In the end it wont even matter though. This fight will happen within a year, and when it does I'll laugh when they announce the new middleweight champ.

That's more realistic explanation Bro.

In short Winky and Shaw realized that they shouldn't fight Taylor in AK reason why they are making these craps, which makes sense. But like it or not, this still some sort of embarrashment on their part.

And yes I believe this fight will still happen later.

[Easy-E]

I don't think so at all. I honestly think Winky just came to his senses. He can let Taylor fight some random scrub as a tune up in his home town, which in turn might even draw more fans to their fight. Meanwhile Winky can stay prepared and then fight Taylor in an even ground setting. It's not as though a major robbery would occurr in AK, but why risk the close rounds. He most likely realized his mistake, and rather than just straight pull out so he can be mocked when he can just ask for terms that wont be accepted.

In the end it wont even matter though. This fight will happen within a year, and when it does I'll laugh when they announce the new middleweight champ.

winky is embrassing himself bc he said he would fight taylor in little rock, but he is now realizing he doesnt really want to so hes asking for 50/50
i would actully like to have taylor to accept this, and wait for winky's next excuse

[restless_438]

Yeah right. Taylor not's gonna be considered the best middle weight until he fights Winky. That's just according to Shaw.

actually, it's the truth..

[psychopath]

actually, it's the truth..

Well maybe? And that's the reason why Shaw is using that arguement to twist the arm of DiBella but I don't think it's going to work. Taylor will still earn his due without Winky, primarily because it's in the open, who started all these commotions and who's screwing the negotiations. And if this fight never happens it's not Taylor's fault.

[Dirt E Gomez]

winky is embrassing himself bc he said he would fight taylor in little rock, but he is now realizing he doesnt really want to so hes asking for 50/50
i would actully like to have taylor to accept this, and wait for winky's next excuse

You act like he's being a coward. He's being smart. If winky was a KO artist, he'd take the deal in a hearbeat, kill Taylor, and move on. BUt he's not, and he knows that he'll win a decision if he fights Taylor. However, while AK wont be a massive place for a robbery, close rounds might lean towards the home town kid. So why risk it? He's doing the smart thing.

[Soliloquy]

Gomez wanna make a bet...I got Taylor you got Winky?