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  • ИATAS
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    #51
    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
    Besides the other full champions, which fighters do you think would make some amazing mandatory compared to Vera? Sturm is coming off two loses. N'dam is coming off his Quillin losses and has that rematch clause. Zbik is coming off two loses. Proksa was already beaten by Golovkin. Rubio is the mandatory for Quillin. Macklin would be fine (he's not even listed in the WBA rankings for whatever reason), but since losing officially losing to Sturm and Martinez, he's only win is Alcine. Murray actually made sense when he was the WBA interim champ, but he's fighting Martinez. Solimon is the IBF mandatory, but who knows what's going on with his positive drug test.

    That pretty much leaves the fringe contenders in the Vera quality.

    Yes, it's strange that Vera isn't ranked in the WBA rankings and suddenly is the mandatory, but some of the guys ahead of Vera in the WBA list are even stranger.
    N'dam would be way better than Vera. But i doubt N'dam.would take it.

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    • HeroBando
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      #52
      Originally posted by 1PunchKOPOW!
      Those are actually step ups for him...



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      Proksa, Rosado vs those guys, it's a wash. But we wouldn't talking those guys if the likes of Quillin had decided to sack up

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        #53
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        Besides the other full champions, which fighters do you think would make some amazing mandatory compared to Vera? Sturm is coming off two loses. N'dam is coming off his Quillin losses and has that rematch clause. Zbik is coming off two loses. Proksa was already beaten by Golovkin. Rubio is the mandatory for Quillin. Macklin would be fine (he's not even listed in the WBA rankings for whatever reason), but since losing officially losing to Sturm and Martinez, he's only win is Alcine. Murray actually made sense when he was the WBA interim champ, but he's fighting Martinez. Solimon is the IBF mandatory, but who knows what's going on with his positive drug test.

        That pretty much leaves the fringe contenders in the Vera quality.

        Yes, it's strange that Vera isn't ranked in the WBA rankings and suddenly is the mandatory, but some of the guys ahead of Vera in the WBA list are even stranger.
        wba's top 15 according to fightnews.com

        1. Martin Murray
        2. Felix Sturm
        3. Julien Marie Sainte
        4. Patrick Nielsen
        5. Sebastian Zbik
        6. Gilberto Ramirez
        7. Jarrot Fletcher
        8. Grzegorz Proksa
        9. Andy Lee
        10. George Tahdooahnippah
        11. Matthew Macklin
        12. Jorge Navarro
        13. Juan Camilo Novoa
        14. Juan Ubaldo Cabrera
        15. Gabriel Rosado

        like i said in my first post in this thread, if golovkin can't get the other titleholders in the ring with him (or the top contenders like pirog, n'dam, macklin) than just keep fighting actual MWs that will get in the ring with him. but would hbo approve of guys like vera and rubio for golovkin?

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          #54
          lol Brian Vera was not even on the WBA raking now he mandatory? Its its like Keith Thurman he was not part of the WBA or WBO ranking now he #2 WBA, and fighting for the WBO interim title on saturday LOL at today boxing rankings..

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            #55
            Originally posted by chiguy91
            wba's top 15 according to fightnews.com

            1. Martin Murray
            2. Felix Sturm
            3. Julien Marie Sainte
            4. Patrick Nielsen
            5. Sebastian Zbik
            6. Gilberto Ramirez
            7. Jarrot Fletcher
            8. Grzegorz Proksa
            9. Andy Lee
            10. George Tahdooahnippah
            11. Matthew Macklin
            12. Jorge Navarro
            13. Juan Camilo Novoa
            14. Juan Ubaldo Cabrera
            15. Gabriel Rosado

            like i said in my first post in this thread, if golovkin can't get the other titleholders in the ring with him (or the top contenders like pirog, n'dam, macklin) than just keep fighting actual MWs that will get in the ring with him. but would hbo approve of guys like vera and rubio for golovkin?
            Brian vs Vera would be an okay BAD undercard, but not a main event. Macklin would be good and he said he would be willing to fight Golovkin next recently, but he also seems to be in the running for JCC. But Vera is also seems to be in the running for JCC, so that might free up Golovkin from fighting a mandatory next.

            Vera won't fight scared like Rosado so I think it'll be a decent fight while it lasts. These top 20 fringe contenders like Vera are the type of fighters Golovkin should have fought before becoming champion, but if no one else wants to fight him, I'm okay with him doing it now. I much prefer Vera over someone like Ishida for sure.

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              #56
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Cause they apparently just ordered the mandatory. A pretty ridiculous one, I don't see Vera anywhere in the current WBA rankings. Though not any real appealing, makeable fights either.
              Yea.... funny how he wasn't rated in the top 15, but all of a sudden he's now the mandatory

              Originally posted by BafanaBafana
              This is a good fight for Golovkin at this time, but I was hoping for Geale/Pirog on that June date...
              Me too, but I doubt Pirog jumps straight into that fight. He was supposed to take a march tune-up, but that fell apart.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ИATAS
                N'dam would be way better than Vera. But i doubt N'dam.would take it.
                N'damn had previously given up his WBA spot to fight for the WBO. Would seem weird for the WBA to reward the guy with the #1 spot immediately after losing his WBO title and voluntarily vacating from the WBA rankings.

                But yeah, as far as a better fight, N'damn is better than Vera. As far as rankings and mandatories though, I don't think it makes sense to give it to N'dam.
                Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 03-05-2013, 12:28 AM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  Brian vs Vera would be an okay BAD undercard, but not a main event. Macklin would be good and he said he would be willing to fight Golovkin next recently, but he also seems to be in the running for JCC. But Vera is also seems to be in the running for JCC, so that might free up Golovkin from fighting a mandatory next.

                  Vera won't fight scared like Rosado so I think it'll be a decent fight while it lasts. These top 20 fringe contenders like Vera are the type of fighters Golovkin should have fought before becoming champion, but if no one else wants to fight him, I'm okay with him doing it now. I much prefer Vera over someone like Ishida for sure.
                  first time i heard about that.

                  yeah, i don't see vera being as hesitant as rosado to let his hands go, and also being a bigger guy, i think it'll make for a good fight. we'll see what kind of success a guy like vera can have against golovkin if the fight is made. i'm down for it, hopefully hbo approves of it if it does have to happen in june.
                  well golovkin won his belts against ouma and simon (i think), so i really wouldn't put too much stock into them. also, there isn't that many tough contenders out there at MW, it's not like the situation a weight class below with alvarez and the wbc belt. plus, i wouldn't pick any of the top contenders over golovkin (most i would do is consider a pirog fight 50/50).
                  an ishida fight isn't good, i agree, but it's a stay busy fight happening in monaco, so i'm cool with it. i honestly wouldn't have mind if they threw it on espn2, that card has a bunch of names on it. golovkin's people were talking about an adama fight before settling for ishida, not sure what happened with that.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by chiguy91
                    first time i heard about that.

                    yeah, i don't see vera being as hesitant as rosado to let his hands go, and also being a bigger guy, i think it'll make for a good fight. we'll see what kind of success a guy like vera can have against golovkin if the fight is made. i'm down for it, hopefully hbo approves of it if it does have to happen in june.
                    well golovkin won his belts against ouma and simon (i think), so i really wouldn't put too much stock into them. also, there isn't that many tough contenders out there at MW, it's not like the situation a weight class below with alvarez and the wbc belt. plus, i wouldn't pick any of the top contenders over golovkin (most i would do is consider a pirog fight 50/50).
                    an ishida fight isn't good, i agree, but it's a stay busy fight happening in monaco, so i'm cool with it. i honestly wouldn't have mind if they threw it on espn2, that card has a bunch of names on it. golovkin's people were talking about an adama fight before settling for ishida, not sure what happened with that.
                    The card is gonna be one of those $25 PPVs. I think I'll buy it, neither of the LHW bouts seems like a mismatch.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                      N'damn had previously given up his WBA spot to fight for the WBO. Would seem weird for the WBA to reward the guy with the #1 spot immediately after losing his WBO title and voluntarily vacating from the WBA rankings.

                      But yeah, as far as a better fight, N'damn is better than Vera. As far as rankings and mandatories though, I don't think it makes sense to give it to N'dam.
                      About as much sense as Vera becoming a mandatory. It's a real head scratcher.

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