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Originally posted by Cuadra View PostWell it's not just 40mill, if May would have beaten Pac in a good fight then there would be a second and maybe third fight that would have generated more then 40mill all together due to Pac wanting a rematch.
If Pac would have taken it and beaten Floyd then he would have the upper hand on things and could demand more money the next fight.
I do believe it could have generated more than 100mill each over the course of 2-3 fights. That could have definitely bought Pac the Presidency over in the Philippines..... and gotten May out of financial problems
Each fighter is to blame here, I do believe greed or pride over money made this happen instead of glory or love for boxing. If they had some Ali in them this would have happened years ago...
And....lest we forget..... PPV cable/communications etc take between 50-55% of the PPV. S
So......
Then what has to be considered is that Mayweather fights are usually rather less than riveting, so, unless the first fight was good, the other one(or two) would not be as valuable.
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Originally posted by Boxing Bob View PostPac/Marquez 3 nor 4 came anywhere close to 40 million! Post a link, dare ya
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Originally posted by Reloaded View Post****ty deal lol , it was the biggest offer Manny has ever got in boxing , well apart from the 50/50 offer to fight Floyd but Manny ran from that also , he never wanted to fight Floyd its was all just a sham to get publicity on all his other fights , now that he has sunk he would like to cash out on Floyd .
The dude said NO to 50/50 , for fck sake !
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Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce View PostBUt wasnt he going to do a joint promotional venture with 50 cent? the article was right here on boxing scene
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...venture--57016
I just don't understand how he could see the deal with Floyd as him being cheated but the deal he has with Top rank as being fair? especially now if its extremely expensive for him to get out of it.
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Originally posted by Jordank View PostWhen did manny call floyds bluff once? If anything Floyd called mannys bluff:
1. Manny said he would accept less money, floyd personally called him to to deal.
2. Manny was ready to fight JMM in may 2012, when floyd said fight me, manny said he needs another month to heal his cut.
You have incurable Arumitis. It affects inside the head first, then it travels to the typing fingers.
You guys are just too stupid for words, and maybe i'm not too bright myself for bothering to post here.
As for your stupid nonsense about the cut, He was not ready to fight in early May. Arum made it very clear that the standard healing time for a 3 layer stitched cut to the bone was 6 months, and Pacquiao could not be ready until the end of May at earliest, or beginning of june. It was all on this site, probably before you learned to read.Last edited by edgarg; 02-27-2013, 06:03 PM.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostGoing from 50/50 to 40m fixed is moving goalposts, by a lot. After Arum's 27%, that's like a 10% raise for Pac, for the biggest fight ever, pitiful. Clear now?
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Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce View PostI guess what I want to hear are the Financial reasons why turning down that offer was a good move on Manny's part. All I have heard to this point are pride/principle reasons and I totally understand those. But strictly from a financial perspective (since at the end of the day Boxing is still a business) given what path each has taken since then, I would like to hear Who really thinks Manny is in a better place career wise now then he would be if he accepted the 40 mil and the fight actually happened. Even in the worst case is getting dominated by floyd for 40 mil worse than a close decision win or getting knocked out by Maruez for a much smaller purse? And again if he won the sky would have been the limit.
This conversation would not be happening if Pacquiao had not had the sheer bad luck to walk into a lucky punch in a fight he was beginning to dominate. It can even be shown that he tripped over Marquez' foot and fell face first into the punch, making it far more concussive.
Simple arithmetic shows that Pacquiao would retain about $24 mill (from $40 mill) after all taxes, (taxes about 38% then, today 41.9%) from which he'd pay his manager and trainer and other expenses. This is with NO Top Rank. If Top Rank were involved it would be about $5-6 mill less. Pacquiao would not ruin his relationship with Top Rank without whom he'd never have been where he is today. According to all reports he makes a minimum of $25 mill for each fight with them.
Then ne has to take into account that when (and if) Mayweather had done his own artihmetic, he might realise that with HIS taxes, promoter, PPV (50-55%) and incidental expenses he wouldn't make all that much either...considering the RISK to his health involved.....
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Originally posted by atykewell10The revisionism that goes on on this site is absolutely staggering.
The offer was a low-ball. Everyone knows it, they knew it at the time.
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Originally posted by The904star View PostSo Floyd should make less so arum can earn more? Yeah right. Anyone with a brain can see what Floyd has been trying to make clear to manny. Leave top rank and u got 40 mil waiting for u. Floyd can't do anything about what manny has to do with his money after he gets it. So if manny was in debt with some bill collector for millions, would it be Floyd's responsibility to pay him more so he can pay his bills? Really think about this.
But I get your gist. That's why they needed to agree on a reasonable split, like 52/48 or 56/44, none of this fixed offer crap. That way everyone gets their a good bump on their career best.
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