Re watched Mayweather vs. Ortiz.......

[Biolink]

Meaning Ortiz lost to a Jr Welterweight nobody has ever heard of and his best win is Andre Berto.. is he REALLY that good of a fighter?

Ortiz didn't fight the whole fight with a broken jaw lol... how many times have you seen Ortiz fight through adversity? I've never seen it.

Lopez broke his jaw in the 9th round, and is exactly when he quit.

1:44 for the Jaw breaker

Even if his jaw did break right there realistically if something was supposed to make you quit this would be in the realm of an acceptable tip of the cap(Not Maidana).



Unless you want him to go 3 more rounds in with his jaw hanging hanging off and possibly threaten the longevity of his career.

[DARKSEID]

Even if his jaw did break right there realistically if something was supposed to make you quit this would be in the realm of an acceptable tip of the cap(Not Maidana).



Unless you want him to go 3 more rounds in with his jaw hanging hanging off and possibly threaten the longevity of his career.

That doesn't change the fact that he was beaten by a jr welterweight who nobody has ever heard of.

If Ortiz was a good fighter he would have

A. Not gotten hit so much, so hard and so cleanly by so many power shots

B. Stopped/Slowed lopez down before he broke his jaw by getting hit so many times.

[-Huey-]

Roger Maywrather deserves an award!

[GrandpaBernard]

anybody remember when larry stole, word for word, a post from ESB?


that was pretty damn sorry

what post was this?

At first I wasn't laughing, but when I saw that Ortiz wasn't getting up, I couldn't stop for about five minutes. With every replay, it was more and more absurd what had just happened. I still can't help but laugh about it. Great way for that fight to end.

As much as I don't like Mayweather, I was almost a fan after that.

Seeing Ortiz get KO'd like that is one of the best moments I have as a Floyd fan.

He made a public statement of cruelty to let people know not to **** with him. He's a defensive cutie, but a master of dirty fighting to go with it. A fighter shouldn't let people forget how mean he is.

[Scarcaztic]

I loved how floyd had ortiz on the backfoot most of the fight yet usually ortiz is very agressive and steamrolls people

That's what I loved the most about the fight. People don't realize how good your defense has to be, in order to do that to such an aggressive fighter.

I mean, he literally just chose when he'd be pressuring, and when he'd be boxing. I don't think people understand how damn good you have to be able to literally dictate every moment of the fight.

[Scarcaztic]

I wasn't all that impressed with that choice of opponent. Floyd knew how dumb Ortiz was and is smart about who to fight and when to fight them .Kind of like Hopkins use to do. It makes a fighter look larger than life. He's a great fighter BUT he doesn't challenge himself against opponents who can really challenge him and push him to the limits. The Cotto fight wasn't suppose to go down like that. He thought he would just make a ton of money and look good doing it but we all saw he won by a couple of rounds. WHY didn't he choose Canelo for May 4th? WHY didn't he fight Manny after the two year lay-off? Exactly my point. Ducking, ducking, ducking. Unless he is totally shot, he will beat The Ghost BUT because of his lack of legs, The Ghost will make it a close and dangerous fight for Floyd because of his volume punching.

I'm sort of with you on that. Yes, he does get choosy on who he wants to fight. But c'mon man. Watch EVERY Ortiz fight. The guy's not a bum. He's given EVERY fighter he's face problems.

Floyd made him look sub par at best. It was like watching some guy with great physical abilities, and very good boxing skills vs. a master class boxer.

It's just that feeling you get when you feel like one guy knows what he's doing, and everything's under control.

Where as Ortiz is the one desperate to land shots. It was a great display of skills.

[A-Wolf]

Im sorry, but im not sold on all this Floyd arse licking.

In the ortiz fight he was actaully getting through. With some clean shots. It really wa a shame that floyd cheap shtted him.

Shane mosley at 38 years of age, very nearly koed floyd in round 2, it was basically him gassing out that made floyd "look good".

Cotto, way past his best and wrong weight class got through many times on floyd, with very little subtley. DHL won their fight nd he was past his best, i could go on, castollo robery etc.

Facts are hes signed a 6 fight deal that shows hes either addicted to money or hes got a ******** problem and has massive debts. EAITHER WAY i dont think it will end well for him

You're shading things rather heavily on the opposite end but I agree with your fundamental assessment.

[A-Wolf]

I'm sort of with you on that. Yes, he does get choosy on who he wants to fight. But c'mon man. Watch EVERY Ortiz fight. The guy's not a bum. He's given EVERY fighter he's face problems.

Floyd made him look sub par at best. It was like watching some guy with great physical abilities, and very good boxing skills vs. a master class boxer.

It's just that feeling you get when you feel like one guy knows what he's doing, and everything's under control.

Where as Ortiz is the one desperate to land shots. It was a great display of skills.

???

No. That's what Hopkins vs. Trinidad looked like. Calzaghe vs. Lacy. Horse****. Ortiz was competitive in that fight up until the cheap shot. Floyd was outdistancing him but Ortiz was keeping the possibility alive for himself that he might get through with something damaging at some point. Floyd himself smiled multiple times during the action indicating he appreciated that he was in an actual fight and Ortiz was making it interesting for him.

[Scarcaztic]

???

No. That's what Hopkins vs. Trinidad looked like. Calzaghe vs. Lacy. Horse****. Ortiz was competitive in that fight up until the cheap shot. Floyd was outdistancing him but Ortiz was keeping the possibility alive for himself that he might get through with something damaging at some point. Floyd himself smiled multiple times during the action indicating he appreciated that he was in an actual fight and Ortiz was making it interesting for him.

When they got in close, Ortiz was missing everything he was throwing.

Floyd was starting to time his power rights. At first he was gauging the distance where he should throw the right from, which is why they were landing, but not too hard, because he wanted to bring the punch back ASAP.

Then he found out the exact range, and those shots started getting harder and harder. I have no doubts Ortiz was in for a TKO/KO, which happened. LOL.

Since when does a stand up straight, set their feet before they throw a punch type fighter the same as a guy with power, and can move like Ortiz. Don't get it twisted, Tito is a monster and would probably KO Ortiz, but a guy like Ortiz gives a straight up boxer way more trouble, than a guy like Tito.

Lacy is the same as Tito. Rudimentary, power puncher.

I'm not bigging up Ortiz for the sake of my argument. i'm just saying, a guy like Ortiz is much tougher for a boxer than said sluggers.

He came into the ring as a MW. Not only a bigger guy, but a bigger, athletic guy that can punch AND MOVE. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

W're not talking JCC jr. Huge weight advantage but moves like a zombie, and barely throws punches. We're talking a huge weight advantage, and the guy is a live dog, and can hurt you.

[titan m]

Im sorry, but im not sold on all this Floyd arse licking.

In the ortiz fight he was actaully getting through. With some clean shots. It really wa a shame that floyd cheap shtted him.

Shane mosley at 38 years of age, very nearly koed floyd in round 2, it was basically him gassing out that made floyd "look good".

Cotto, way past his best and wrong weight class got through many times on floyd, with very little subtley. DHL won their fight nd he was past his best, i could go on, castollo robery etc.

Facts are hes signed a 6 fight deal that shows hes either addicted to money or hes got a ******** problem and has massive debts. EAITHER WAY i dont think it will end well for him

Ortiz had that coming for the headbutt, i cant understand how anybody would feel bad for him. He was trying to make the fight dirty and got what he asked for.