Robert Guerrero and Nonito Donaire Training Together

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  • Jloro
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheHook84
    Yeah Nonito has the potential to go up to higher weight classes.
    That would be great to see him fighting the bigger guys

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    • Phenom
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      #22
      Originally posted by Jloro
      That would be great to see him fighting the bigger guys
      or guys his size

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      • puga
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        #23
        Originally posted by DLT
        Nah, I disagree. Vic was huge but that was house money. He didnt have the expectations at that point. Montiel was big but most still saw him as a nice favorite in that one. This fight he is a top P4P guy, everyone says he is ducking, and alot of people genuinely think he can lose.

        I think you could argue that if he was fighting Mares but Rigo's amature pedigree and him being such a mysterious pro makes this a mega fight. Even now with the testing people are giving him a hard time. They wouldnt do that for a Mares or Montiel fight
        vic was the biggest fight for nonito imo ..nobody knew him at that point and was a huge underdog , that was nonito's coming out party right there..nonito was already a p4p fighter when he beat montiel but montiel was seen as the best when nonito fought him , i dont think it can get any better than that...the threat that rigo brings at this point come from nothing but perception of his skills rather than litterally proving it in the ring...

        how would you rank this in terms nonito's best win (if he beats rigo)?

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        • DLT
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          #24
          Originally posted by puga
          vic was the biggest fight for nonito imo ..nobody knew him at that point and was a huge underdog , that was nonito's coming out party right there..nonito was already a p4p fighter when he beat montiel but montiel was seen as the best when nonito fought him , i dont think it can get any better than that...the threat that rigo brings at this point come from nothing but perception of his skills rather than litterally proving it in the ring...

          how would you rank this in terms nonito's best win (if he beats rigo)?
          Again, its a super duper hard thing to catagorize because if he wins, all 3 of those would be so different. Like you said about Vic, no one knew who he was at the time so in some regards that tops everything and in others it doesnt because youre playing with house money. Its like Pac beating MAB "somewhat" put him on the map but what he did afterwards with all the pressure is what makes it all that more impressive.

          Alot of guys like Raheem beat legends or stars and then never really do anything to follow it up. You also have to monitor how much can you judge hindsight. Meaning a Vic win was huge at the time but looking back at what we know now, Vic is not on his level at all. Should that matter or not? Its always hard to figure out. I tend to think it shouldnt but others may aruge otherwise.

          He was also P4P like you said against a great in Montiel but most thought he would still run through him. Too big even though coming from a lower weight. Again, Rigo is all perception but as they say, perception is reality. If Donaire kills him a ton of people will give him props while at the same time others will say that Rigo was an inexperinced pro who hadnt done much. In some ways with fights like this, you almost hope its tough because you may get more credit with it being a tough fight then if you destroy him.

          Its all crazy. Ill just go ahead and agree with you and say that the others are bigger now but what Rigo does after has a chance to make this Donaire's biggest

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          • freudianslip
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            #25
            Originally posted by TheHook84
            Guerrero needs a quick sparring partner so hes prepared for Floyds quickness.
            This! Floyd is elusive but I don't think people really prepare for his quickness (which of course plays into his defense.) as much as they should.

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            • TheHook84
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jloro
              That would be great to see him fighting the bigger guys
              Yeah, I want to see Dib versus Donaire @ 126.

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              • Pacdbest
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                #27
                Originally posted by Deltoro_10
                I think andre word pals around them as we'll. I think they're all good friends. U here in NorCal is not as deep in boxers as is southerner California. It seems that down there, every county has a fight camp
                Andre Ward & Nonito were close friends! Ward use to give Nonito some lunch/Commute Money when nonito still struggles financially.

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                • TheHook84
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pacdbest
                  Andre Ward & Nonito were close friends! Ward use to give Nonito some lunch/Commute Money when nonito still struggles financially.
                  Oh I didn't know that, yeah boxers from the Bay Area all stick together.

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                  • Pacdbest
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jloro
                    Nonito does look almost the same size as guerrero in this picture
                    They should spar against each other! Robert will benefit more! Nonito has a better left hook than Floyds, Good straight too.

                    Robert is a Lefty, That's the only one he has just like Rigo.

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                    • Pacdbest
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TheHook84
                      Oh I didn't know that, yeah boxers from the Bay Area all stick together.
                      Here's their pix when they were really young!

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