Floyd thinks he is a PPV draw............

[The Big Dunn]

Thats really is a very basic and ill thought out theory, but its from you and thats no surprise. Amazing that you fail to acknowledge the proliferation of global media and social outlets, amazing.

What connection do social media outlets have with ppv sales? Have you seen one study or have any data supporting a causal link betwwen them? Or are you just posting unsubstantiated theory because floyd is involved?

Prove your post with something credible. And then also figure out how sales are affected by the reduced status boxing has and the other combat sports that floyd competes against that the other fighters didn't.

Floyd has proven he can sell fights and does so at a higher rate then fighters that are allegedly more popular.

[The Big Dunn]

this is a VERY horrible post... smh.

Why becaue its factual? Did I make up the numbers? Maybe I am speculating on the popularity of pr fighters to a large extent. Othewise, what's your problem with it?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Because they're still competing for viewers. More TV stations = more distractions. It's harder to get peoples' attentions focused on the one thing these days. Case in point back then a Tyson fight on network TV averaged 20 million and peaked at 40 million. The same fight today would probably average 10 million and peak at 20 million. Same thing across the board, back in the early 2000s the Contender on FOX was cancelled for doing a mere 6 million viewers. These days they would be delighted with that.

Hahah, no, you're looking at it all wrong. A PPV doesn't compete with anything other than something in the same genre. You have to compare it to what the same viewers would be changing the channel for.

A boxing fan isn't going to be set to watch a PPV then say "Oh there might be something good on the Food Network so I'm changing the channel"....lol

The highest PPV ever was done in today's era, not in Tyson's day. That was DLH vs Floyd at over 2 million buys.

Boxing is generating more money today than ever, the fighters are also making more money.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Boxing was bigger then as far as fan appreciation but it's making more money now because of the social media and accessibility to it, tv contracts etc....

If you had stars like Tyson and Oscar today, you would see them make absurd money.

[figzuki]

What connection do social media outlets have with ppv sales? Have you seen one study or have any data supporting a causal link betwwen them? Or are you just posting unsubstantiated theory because floyd is involved?

Prove your post with something credible. And then also figure out how sales are affected by the reduced status boxing has and the other combat sports that floyd competes against that the other fighters didn't.

Floyd has proven he can sell fights and does so at a higher rate then fighters that are allegedly more popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view

where the hell were floyds ppv numbers before oscar, please explain.... floyds been dominating the game for 17 years by his account, where were the numbers before then...

he did his job and sold the ppv for the oscar fight, and in the processed marketed himself to be hated, so everyone pays cuz they want to see him loose now, it worked, he is still undefeated and people are still hoping to see him get pacquiao'd.

[check hook]

Floyd is a PPV draw but he wasn't the draw Oscar ever was.

Actually you can argue that he is. Tyson is actually the biggest drawcard the sport has ever seen and probably will ever see. When he was on PPV it had half the reach it does now and he was doing over a million fighting tomato cans.

[croz]

Hahah, no, you're looking at it all wrong. A PPV doesn't compete with anything other than something in the same genre. You have to compare it to what the same viewers would be changing the channel for.]

Of course it is. If people want to watch something else they'll watch something else. Why do you think Manny vs Bradley was delayed for a basketball game? Just because people buy a PPV it doesn't mean they're only going to watch only PPVs.

A boxing fan isn't going to be set to watch a PPV then say "Oh there might be something good on the Food Network so I'm changing the channel"....lol

The highest PPV ever was done in today's era, not in Tyson's day. That was DLH vs Floyd at over 2 million buys.

The food network? Yeah that's what we're comparing this to of course.

Look at it this way, let's say HBO spend millions and millions on promoting a Mayweather fight but only show the promotion on HBO. Well not as many people are going to be watching HBO as say they would have been before. While HBO is advertising on HBO there are more people tuning into other networks.

Say for example you had 5 million people on average watching HBO back in 1970. Okay well then along comes Showtime who cut into HBO's audience bringing it down to 4 million watching HBO on average. Then along comes FX In later years who take another piece from the HBO pie. Then suddenly every network wants their own sport network and each one of them digs in even more. Then you have netflix, youtube, even social media sites like facebook take a percentage of people who otherwise may have been watching HBO. Over time those 5 million people who would have seen the boxing advert have now been cut down to a mere 1 million people

Back in the old days you only had to put one advert on one network to reach those 5 million people. Nowadays if you want to reach those same 5 million people you have to put an ad on HBO, Showtime, NBCS, FX, youtube, twitter, and facebook.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Boxing was bigger then as far as fan appreciation but it's making more money now because of the social media and accessibility to it, tv contracts etc....

If you had stars like Tyson and Oscar today, you would see them make absurd money.

There are more fans today. The sports business journal estimates boxing grew from 30 million fans in 2002 to 50 million in 2012.

[DeadLikeMe]

Here is the disconnect that I don't understand. People use opponents to discredit Floyd's PPV numbers, but then turn around and proclaim all of Pacquiao's numbers against the same damn people as all Pacquiao's numbers. How low of an IQ does someone have to have that they don't see the hypocrisy of their arguments?

[figzuki]

Why becaue its factual? Did I make up the numbers? Maybe I am speculating on the popularity of pr fighters to a large extent. Othewise, what's your problem with it?

the numbers you gave were factual, sure...

but the rest is a croc of ****.. donesn't have to do with anything about the era's which is what made actual ppv fighters like tyson and dlh.

we are both defending that he is a ppv draw of course, but your views are just ridiculous, when it came to other thoughts other than actual numbers.

[DannYankee]

He is.... even if most people tune in to see him get KTFO they still tuning in and that's part of the bad guy persona show he puts on. Not saying he's a saint in real life but sure knows how to get people watching even if it's to see the ahole laid out they still paying to see him.

[djeffectz]

Tyson is the biggest draw, he fights average boxers and still get over 1 million buys

Pacquiao is the next highest

followed by Mayweather and Oscar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view